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It's interesting that we see these blades in the Sudan, and it is indeed an evidence of the dynamism of the area during the XIX century. The Zande fought against the Khedivate, the Mahdists and the Belgians for a long time, so it isn't surprising that their weapons appear further North along the Sudan, either as loot or in use by Zande (and other peoples) in service of those powers (mercenaries, pressed into service, or both). I didn't notice them in The Four Feathers! Truth being told, I watched that movie many years before I knew anything about African weaponry. Regarding function, I think there are many years of weird discourse around them, and many weird judgements from the colonial period. Probably because of the lack of dedicated study integrated into a coherent Military History for Africa, especially Central Africa, it seems like up to date analysis of many sources from a military history lens isn't there yet. For example, the one in the OP is functionally a dagger-axe, in a way similar to a zaghnal minus the hammer bit and with extra hooking capabilities. In all sickle swords, from mine to the more choppy ones, the hooking makes sense, both for manipulating the enemy shield and just for reaching targets behind the shield. I haven't encountered any primary sources talking about it in relation to Central Africa, but they do exist regarding Ethiopia. Last edited by fernando; 28th October 2023 at 10:02 AM. Reason: Quotation size largely exceeded |
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This really is a fascinating topic, and it is hard to follow sometimes as the names of the tribes seem to vary through transliteration, and the terms for the weapons themselves are equally hard to follow.
It seems in these various tribes of Congo regions the throwing knives, while following the same multi blade theme, are varied notably with terms being different in the same way. I have but one example of a sword of the Congo which has some relation to the 'sickle swords', note the half moon fixture at top of blade near hilt, which I understand is to attach a leather strap. The rounded shape of the blade seems to correspond to one of the blades on the 'kpinga' throwing knife. References have called this a 'war sickle' of Boa (Baboa) Nsakara and Yakoma tribes among others but it seems to be a form of the 'mambele' as yours. The attached image is from "The Four Feathers", starring Heath Ledger (2002), a truly phenomenal film. Note the raised Zande sword in the background. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 27th October 2023 at 04:21 AM. |
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My favorite Four Feathers is the 1939 version. Very good depictions of the Hadendawa and their weapons.
Maybe available on this YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukpcHG5h528 Ed |
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I recall some years back when a guy I knew went to an auction where the studios were cleaning house in their warehouses. The stuff that was acquired by so many collectors was astounding. Rudy (Valentino ) himself had become quite a collector of old swords acquired during making of films. Oh.....the old days! ![]() |
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Here is an Azande prestige sickle sword. The hilt is carved elephant ivory with the typical black linear lines usually seen on Azande work, often on ivory arm daggers. The blade is forged with little decoration. Early 20th century , likely 1920 or 1930 whereabouts. Apologies for the dim lighting conditions, but the kitchen fluorescents are the brightest area on this gloomy fall day.
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So far I know only the Ngombe bero from Changdao and the Ngombe mambeli from Wildwolberine related, the enomo, Benge, Boa and Bandia people from Jim is another sickle sword. But I am not an expert at all.
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My Mambele sickle sword:
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Here are three maps showing the different types of sickle swords and execution swords.
The maps are from the Tribal Arms monographs Vol.1 No.1-3 by Elsen (1,3) and Gosseau (2). These three volumes describe in detail the weapons depicted and their respective origins. |
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