Chronological listing of Polish-Lithuanian and Hungarian sabers

[awdaniec666]

Originally Posted by Teisani

21 - Hungarian sabre - Magyar Nemzeti Múzeum.

Interestingly, compared to most other sabres with long quillons, this one has a European blade. Can't find any other info on it.

This specimen looks exactly like the ones gifted by Bathory to the Saxon court. They can be still found in the Rüstkammer Dresden - possibly a museal loan?

[Teisani]

Originally Posted by awdaniec666

This specimen looks exactly like the ones gifted by Bathory to the Saxon court. They can be still found in the Rüstkammer Dresden - possibly a museal loan?

You mean Y0054 ( https://skd-online-collection.skd.mu...s/Index/284576 )? No, they're different sabers. But you're right they are similar. Didn't have time to post it together with the others unfortunately.

[Teisani]

One minor note. I thought Illésházy Ferenc's scabbard looked familiar...by chance, looking on SKD-online I found sabre Y0224 with a similar scabbard. OK, it's not identical, but pretty close. They're even both probably from the 1650-1660! Check the description.

No way do I think they're the same sabre... but same scabbard maker? Maybe.

https://skd-online-collection.skd.mu...s/Index/289059

[awdaniec666]

Originally Posted by Teisani

You mean Y0054 ( https://skd-online-collection.skd.mu...s/Index/284576 )? No, they're different sabers. But you're right they are similar. Didn't have time to post it together with the others unfortunately.

Different sabers of course, but the gift was a batch of these. I don´t think any of them was identical to another. But this question could be solved with a short email to the museum if somebody would be seriously interested.

P.S.: You´ve asked me about the origin of the stone sculputures with the Karabela(-ish) hilt within the PDF I shared. Did not forget this! It´s from an Epitaph by Paul Volckmer in the Hl. Sebald Church in Nürnberg from 1499.

[Teisani]

Originally Posted by awdaniec666

...but the gift was a batch of these.

P.S.: ... It´s from an Epitaph by Paul Volckamer in the Hl. Sebald Church in Nürnberg from 1499.

A batch? This is interesting. Looking at their website, I didn't find any other sabres looking exactly like this one.

P.S.: Thank you, and I found a nice photo of it here. My assumption is that it's a messer handle ( https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...-_DSC05731.JPG and https://mobile.twitter.com/Aetas_Mem...73100680622080 ), although it is highly curved... and the artist knew to put upper languettes on the cross-guard. Interestingly, the wearer has a turban on his head... so he's a turk. So the artist, to my eyes, is depicting an Ottoman sabre, but blending messer handle traits.

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...-_DSC01960.jpg
https://wgue.smugmug.com/Orte/Franke...bald/i-W6kkxcV

[Teisani]

And now for something completely different...
1 - For our viewing pleasure... antique sabres with Wojciech Zabłocki. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJrm7JP1DJA

2 - An interview with the man himself (not really relevant to our goal, but seems a shame not to mention) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QubvyHGbiIA

[Teisani]

23 - False Dmitry I - Tsar of Russia (1605-1606)
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...amozwaniec.jpg

[Teisani]

Before Napoleon: the Early History of the Sabre in Europe - Russ Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QGc5MxbPbk or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs4hEGIN3qQ