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|  9th December 2022, 09:23 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Balkan Miquelet Identification? 
			
			Looking at to possibly add to the collection, but unsure of what it is exactly. For me, it most closely resembles the Čibuklija or perhaps a very plain Dzeferdar. However, I would appreciate others (more experienced) input.
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|  9th December 2022, 09:37 AM | #2 | 
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			Closest thing I have found to something similar in a period photo.
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|  3rd January 2023, 01:53 PM | #3 | 
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			not familiar to anyone?
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|  3rd January 2023, 04:17 PM | #4 | 
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			I think this is a Dzeferdar-gun of Bosnia, Montenegro or Herzegovina made during the end of the 19th century in Kotor, Skadar or Prizren. A similar but more decorated gun I've added and others you can see in the Banat Museum of Timisoara as well as in the book of Robert Elgood, Firearms of the Islamic World.
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|  4th January 2023, 02:08 PM | #5 | 
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			some drawings
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|  7th January 2023, 10:59 AM | #6 | 
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			Hi Cyten Agree with Corrado. Appears to be a Dzeferder with a Ottoman/Turkish lock. And possibly a Turkish barrel. The more decorated example posted by Corrado has one of the more common Balkan style locks. Rick | 
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|  8th January 2023, 03:44 AM | #7 | 
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			As I understand it, Dzeferdar means to be "decorated, bejeweled, etc" and in the photo GP posted, the gun is labeled as "Čibuklija" which to my understanding is essentially an undecorated Dzeferdar, gun made more closely to the Italian guns that were early imports to the region. The Turkish lock and trigger threw me off | 
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