Please help me identify the age and markings on this Rapier.

fernando · 5th September 2022, 01:20 PM

Better view of the blade base and knuckle guard. Still the grip wrapping not clear.
Hopefuly some member able to ID those numbers.

ASPaulding · 5th September 2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Better view of the blade base and knuckle guard. Still the grip wrapping not clear.
Hopefuly some member able to ID those numbers.

A few more.

fernando · 5th September 2022, 06:38 PM

Looks real !

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werecow · 5th September 2022, 06:54 PM

Not a connoisseur either, so maybe I'm way off, but given the active rust on the grip wire and missing turks heads knots or spacers, the blade being shorter than is common, the military markings on the blade, and the fact that the shoulders of the blade don't quite align with the guard, I'm guessing a composite with a smallsword or spadroon blade (a bit chunky for a smallsword maybe), cup hilt rapier guard and pommel, and recent replacement grip wire? Or maybe the grip just got wet recently and that's why the rust looks newer.

ASPaulding · 5th September 2022, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by werecow

Not a connoisseur either, so maybe I'm way off, but given the active rust on the grip wire and missing turks heads knots or spacers, the blade being shorter than is common, the military markings on the blade, and the fact that the shoulders of the blade don't quite align with the guard, I'm guessing a composite with a smallsword or spadroon blade (a bit chunky for a smallsword maybe), cup hilt rapier guard and pommel, and recent replacement grip wire? Or maybe the grip just got wet recently and that's why the rust looks newer.

So we definitely think the blade is not a Rapier blade? I have heard of Transitional Rapiers that started to Evolve into a short sword.

5th September 2022, 06:38 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Looks real ! . Attached Images

5th September 2022, 01:20 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Better view of the blade base and knuckle guard. Still the grip wrapping not clear. Hopefuly some member able to ID those numbers.

5th September 2022, 06:54 PM	#4
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 588	Not a connoisseur either, so maybe I'm way off, but given the active rust on the grip wire and missing turks heads knots or spacers, the blade being shorter than is common, the military markings on the blade, and the fact that the shoulders of the blade don't quite align with the guard, I'm guessing a composite with a smallsword or spadroon blade (a bit chunky for a smallsword maybe), cup hilt rapier guard and pommel, and recent replacement grip wire? Or maybe the grip just got wet recently and that's why the rust looks newer.