Another Blade for ID please.

kai · 26th July 2022, 07:49 PM

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Someone suggested it may be Dapur Megantoro but immediately said that there were parts not making it so.

Did you ask what this suggestion was based on?

For the life of me, I can't see any of the typical megantoro features in this example!

Regards,
Kai

A. G. Maisey · 26th July 2022, 08:25 PM

Two questions:-

can we please have a photo, or maybe if necessary a couple of photos that show the top of the gonjo, ie, looking straight down onto the tip of the pesi; I would like to see the overall outline and especially the sirah cecak and buntut urang.

what is the length of this blade?

milandro · 26th July 2022, 09:38 PM

36cm the blade proper 44cm including the peksi which feels strong.

I never even suggested it was Balinese I just said that it is as smooth as some of the balinese krises in my possession.

Pictures as requested.

kai · 27th July 2022, 07:05 AM

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I never even suggested it was Balinese I just said that it is as smooth as some of the balinese krises in my possession.

Yes, I noted that you did not suggest that. Just wanted to point out that the surface is not typical/traditional Bali either.

Regards,
Kai

kai · 27th July 2022, 07:07 AM

Thanks for the pics!

The sirah cecak is quite asymmetrical...

A. G. Maisey · 27th July 2022, 12:02 PM

I cannot see evidence of a core.

I can see several indicators that incline me to think East Jawa, maybe Madura, after 1850.

The after 1850 guess is because it does not look as if it has a core and material of adequate quality might not have been available pre-1850.

Garap is careless, manufacture would have been low cost.

I do not think it is Kamardikan.

milandro · 30th July 2022, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I cannot see evidence of a core.

I can see several indicators that incline me to think East Jawa, maybe Madura...

I do not think it is Kamardikan.

Thank you Alan, so, if you were to advise a new Sarong a Maduran sarong wou/ld be appropriate? I have a friend who has one and that maybe fitting the blade , he has already fitted 3 blades to Sarongs and he possess the ability to do so.

David · 28th July 2022, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

I never even suggested it was Balinese I just said that it is as smooth as some of the balinese krises in my possession.

While i realize that you never stated that you thought it was Balinese and understand now that you don't believe it is, when you make a post saying that local keris people didn't think it was Javanese, but then say that the surface of the blade is similar to some Balinese keris you have seen that can indeed appear as a suggestion that you might believe it could be Balinese.

26th July 2022, 09:38 PM	#3
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 497	36cm the blade proper 44cm including the peksi which feels strong. I never even suggested it was Balinese I just said that it is as smooth as some of the balinese krises in my possession. Pictures as requested. Attached Images Last edited by milandro; 26th July 2022 at 09:54 PM.

26th July 2022, 08:25 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Two questions:- can we please have a photo, or maybe if necessary a couple of photos that show the top of the gonjo, ie, looking straight down onto the tip of the pesi; I would like to see the overall outline and especially the sirah cecak and buntut urang. what is the length of this blade?

27th July 2022, 07:07 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Thanks for the pics! The sirah cecak is quite asymmetrical...

27th July 2022, 12:02 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	I cannot see evidence of a core. I can see several indicators that incline me to think East Jawa, maybe Madura, after 1850. The after 1850 guess is because it does not look as if it has a core and material of adequate quality might not have been available pre-1850. Garap is careless, manufacture would have been low cost. I do not think it is Kamardikan.