Caucasus belt buckles and more...

rickystl · 2nd July 2022, 07:56 PM

Great looking buckles (and bracelet) guys. I've always found these buckles interesting. Here is one of mine. I believe it's Caucasian. It's in good, serviceable condition, but does show regular usage. The only distraction is a pierced hole in the center cone. It just so happens that the tip of a kindjal blade fits in the hole perfectly. Makes me think the hole came about from a combat situation.

Rick

cyten · 11th July 2022, 10:15 AM

I've seen these buckles all throughout Dagestan, Georgia, and just yesterday in a shop in Armenia

gp · 11th July 2022, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten

I've seen these buckles all throughout Dagestan, Georgia, and just yesterday in a shop in Armenia

do you have any pictures?

as I think it to be a very interesting (sideline) topic, specially the interaction in that region : similarities and differences.

gp · 12th May 2025, 08:28 PM

most of the above bracelets originate from the Caucasus,
just got a new one to my collection which looks different ...

root cause:

the presence of a tughra which reminds me of the Ottoman tughra
the question is; did I become a victim of a kind of fake/ an immitation or if not, where does this one comes from?

Perhaps members with knowledge of the Caucasus region can advice...?

Any other forum members are also most welcome to share your thoughts
thank you!

Tatyana Dianova · 19th May 2025, 08:02 AM

The both bracelets originate from North Afrika (Tunis or Algeria) and were made for those who travel, i.e. they were not worn locally and they cannot be considered as ethnographic jewelry...Sorry for the bad news...

gp · 19th May 2025, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

The both bracelets originate from North Afrika (Tunis or Algeria) and were made for those who travel, i.e. they were not worn locally and they cannot be considered as ethnographic jewelry...Sorry for the bad news...

No problem and thank you very much for your reply.
No bad news; there is always this risk when buying an item without knowing its background for sure !

DhaDha · 20th May 2025, 03:05 PM

Less than a year ago I was lucky enough to visit the Kutaisi State Historical Museum. I was quite taken with this subject and the fine craftsmanship in general. A few pics:

2nd July 2022, 07:56 PM	#1
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Great looking buckles (and bracelet) guys. I've always found these buckles interesting. Here is one of mine. I believe it's Caucasian. It's in good, serviceable condition, but does show regular usage. The only distraction is a pierced hole in the center cone. It just so happens that the tip of a kindjal blade fits in the hole perfectly. Makes me think the hole came about from a combat situation. Rick Attached Images

12th May 2025, 08:28 PM	#4
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 830	most of the above bracelets originate from the Caucasus, just got a new one to my collection which looks different ... root cause: the presence of a tughra which reminds me of the Ottoman tughra the question is; did I become a victim of a kind of fake/ an immitation or if not, where does this one comes from? Perhaps members with knowledge of the Caucasus region can advice...? Any other forum members are also most welcome to share your thoughts thank you! Attached Images

20th May 2025, 03:05 PM	#7
DhaDha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 178	Less than a year ago I was lucky enough to visit the Kutaisi State Historical Museum. I was quite taken with this subject and the fine craftsmanship in general. A few pics: Attached Images

11th July 2022, 10:15 AM	#2
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 94	I've seen these buckles all throughout Dagestan, Georgia, and just yesterday in a shop in Armenia

19th May 2025, 08:02 AM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 736	The both bracelets originate from North Afrika (Tunis or Algeria) and were made for those who travel, i.e. they were not worn locally and they cannot be considered as ethnographic jewelry...Sorry for the bad news...