Burmese Dha & Javanese Badik

Aurangzeb · 10th June 2006, 12:58 AM

Oh onelast thing does anyone have a example I cam see of what the guard on the Thai dha looks like as opposed to the Burmese guard. and if mine is Burmese as opposed to Thai. here is a link to a piece Artzi identified as probably Thai but the handle is different than mine and one with a similer hilt from Burma but the blade is different.

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1988
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=116

Mark...

Mark · 10th June 2006, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurangzeb

Oh onelast thing does anyone have a example I cam see of what the guard on the Thai dha looks like as opposed to the Burmese guard. and if mine is Burmese as opposed to Thai. here is a link to a piece Artzi identified as probably Thai but the handle is different than mine and one with a similer hilt from Burma but the blade is different.

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1988
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=116

Mark...

Well ... ::sigh:: ... to be perfectly honest, it is really hard to tell. At least for those of us who are not Thai or Burmese.

I think Artzi is right about the Burmese attribution for the second one because the decor of the handle is a very classic Burmese motif. Not long ago I would have said the first one was Burmese, too, but now I am seeing Thai examples that are very similar. My thinking at the moment is that they are used all over the area and that there is no strong stylistic distinction between a Burman, a Thai or a Shan (Tai Yuan) knife. There are clearly some styles that are particular to one group or the other, but this doesn't seem to be one them.

Lifeguard!!! I'm drowning over here .... !!!

Aurangzeb · 10th June 2006, 06:33 AM

Hello Mark!

Confusing!

I think for simplicity sake I will still call it Burmese because of the hilt shape and the guard until some hard evidence surfaces saying Thai, Thanks for the help!

Mark...

PUFF · 10th June 2006, 02:55 PM

#1 The fuller run to the tip 's not typical Thai style. The style 's mostly found on Burmese blades.

#2 The circle mark with radial dots looks Burmese to me.

#3 The brass parts on the scabbard 's not precised Thai-Lanna style.

I vote to Burmese

Aurangzeb · 10th June 2006, 03:46 PM

Hello PUFF!

It seems you have shed a great deal of light on this matter of identification. Thank You!

I guess since the similarity between mine and the one Artzi show means that mine is Burmese too.

Mark...

ThePepperSkull · 14th March 2012, 08:40 AM

The Meed Eneb has gained popularity in recent years and in western blade collecting contexts has been referred to as the "Thai E-nep"

Here are a couple of examples made by a contemporary smith named Bun Hom. His are some of the more popular as his blades apparently hold an edge better than your average market blade because of how the blades are made. These pieces are forged out of 5160 steel, heat treated, clay-coated, and then oil-quenched for a hard edge. He has a waiting list of over a year (I was on the waitlist for 15 months before acquiring mine) because of how well his blades hold up to tough use.

The top one is a modern design made for forest rangers and the bottom one is, according to Santi (who helps Bun Hom with his blade making business), a more traditional shape:

10th June 2006, 03:46 PM	#5
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello PUFF! It seems you have shed a great deal of light on this matter of identification. Thank You! I guess since the similarity between mine and the one Artzi show means that mine is Burmese too. Mark... Last edited by Aurangzeb; 10th June 2006 at 05:04 PM.

14th March 2012, 08:40 AM	#6
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	The Meed Eneb has gained popularity in recent years and in western blade collecting contexts has been referred to as the "Thai E-nep" Here are a couple of examples made by a contemporary smith named Bun Hom. His are some of the more popular as his blades apparently hold an edge better than your average market blade because of how the blades are made. These pieces are forged out of 5160 steel, heat treated, clay-coated, and then oil-quenched for a hard edge. He has a waiting list of over a year (I was on the waitlist for 15 months before acquiring mine) because of how well his blades hold up to tough use. The top one is a modern design made for forest rangers and the bottom one is, according to Santi (who helps Bun Hom with his blade making business), a more traditional shape: Attached Images Last edited by ThePepperSkull; 14th March 2012 at 08:53 AM.

10th June 2006, 12:58 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Oh onelast thing does anyone have a example I cam see of what the guard on the Thai dha looks like as opposed to the Burmese guard. and if mine is Burmese as opposed to Thai. here is a link to a piece Artzi identified as probably Thai but the handle is different than mine and one with a similer hilt from Burma but the blade is different. http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1988 http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=116 Mark... Last edited by Aurangzeb; 10th June 2006 at 03:23 AM.

10th June 2006, 06:33 AM	#3
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello Mark! Confusing! I think for simplicity sake I will still call it Burmese because of the hilt shape and the guard until some hard evidence surfaces saying Thai, Thanks for the help! Mark...

10th June 2006, 02:55 PM	#4
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	#1 The fuller run to the tip 's not typical Thai style. The style 's mostly found on Burmese blades. #2 The circle mark with radial dots looks Burmese to me. #3 The brass parts on the scabbard 's not precised Thai-Lanna style. I vote to Burmese