I'd Like to Learn More About This Madura Keris

A. G. Maisey · 24th January 2022, 10:18 PM

I'd give it as "Lar Gangsir" = "Cricket Wing", that's Javanese, I do not know the Madura name, I do not understand Basa Madura.

CharlesS · 25th January 2022, 12:26 AM

Thanks, guys! I am grateful for the input.

I noticed the loss of control in the pattern towards the middle of the blade and towards the tip. This loss of control is also seen in some Moro "twist-cores"( for lack of a better term).

Thanks again!

jagabuwana · 25th January 2022, 01:24 AM

Alan, is pamor lar gangsir just another name for pamor ganggeng kanyut?

A. G. Maisey · 25th January 2022, 02:10 AM

No Jaga, ganggeng is different, if we see a good example of ganggeng, it looks pretty much like its name:- 'trailing water weeds', ie, water weeds that have been washed away and are trailing through the water.

With Lar Gangsir we have a much more compact pamor, and there are several recognised patterns for this pamor motif, all made the same way but with varying degrees of manipulation.

jagabuwana · 25th January 2022, 02:47 AM

Ah yep I see the difference. Thanks Alan.

24th January 2022, 10:18 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	I'd give it as "Lar Gangsir" = "Cricket Wing", that's Javanese, I do not know the Madura name, I do not understand Basa Madura.

25th January 2022, 12:26 AM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks, guys! I am grateful for the input. I noticed the loss of control in the pattern towards the middle of the blade and towards the tip. This loss of control is also seen in some Moro "twist-cores"( for lack of a better term). Thanks again!

25th January 2022, 01:24 AM	#3
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 292	Alan, is pamor lar gangsir just another name for pamor ganggeng kanyut?

25th January 2022, 02:10 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	No Jaga, ganggeng is different, if we see a good example of ganggeng, it looks pretty much like its name:- 'trailing water weeds', ie, water weeds that have been washed away and are trailing through the water. With Lar Gangsir we have a much more compact pamor, and there are several recognised patterns for this pamor motif, all made the same way but with varying degrees of manipulation.

25th January 2022, 02:47 AM	#5
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 292	Ah yep I see the difference. Thanks Alan.