Canons

adrian · 12th January 2022, 06:50 PM

Their small size suggests that they may have been intended as swivel guns.

df1967 · 12th January 2022, 07:02 PM

Possible, thanks for your estimation…

df1967 · 12th January 2022, 07:05 PM

Wondering if the VIII stands for the size and HF is the manufacturer or iron foundry….

Richard G · 13th January 2022, 01:34 PM

This is probably another statement of the bl**ding obvious, but they have a naval\maritime look about them.
Regards
Richard
PS. and not very well cast.

df1967 · 13th January 2022, 02:36 PM

This was also my thought, even when I got them from a castle nearby in south Germany….

kronckew · 13th January 2022, 07:17 PM

The join between the barrel and the trunnions looks a lot like a corroded arc welding bead, I'd think a mould pattern would have a smoother transition. I don't think Heinrich VIII had any arc-welders.

adrian · 14th January 2022, 07:45 PM

I have been involved, directly and indirectly, in a number of restorations some of which have included new trunnions and the guns that are subject of this post do not appear to have welded on trunnions.

Below are photos:

Showing a gun with its original trunnions - virtually everything about which appears identical to the subject guns.

Showing a gun having new trunnions welded on - evidence of such a weld & its 'clean up' are virtually impossible to disguise against close inspection.

Showing a completed gun that has new trunnions & chase. At a distance the trunnions appear okay while the new chase is easily detected due to its lack of surface corrosion.

14th January 2022, 07:45 PM	#7
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 135	I have been involved, directly and indirectly, in a number of restorations some of which have included new trunnions and the guns that are subject of this post do not appear to have welded on trunnions. Below are photos: Showing a gun with its original trunnions - virtually everything about which appears identical to the subject guns. Showing a gun having new trunnions welded on - evidence of such a weld & its 'clean up' are virtually impossible to disguise against close inspection. Showing a completed gun that has new trunnions & chase. At a distance the trunnions appear okay while the new chase is easily detected due to its lack of surface corrosion. Attached Images

12th January 2022, 06:50 PM	#1
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 135	Their small size suggests that they may have been intended as swivel guns.

12th January 2022, 07:02 PM	#2
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Possible, thanks for your estimation…

12th January 2022, 07:05 PM	#3
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Wondering if the VIII stands for the size and HF is the manufacturer or iron foundry….

13th January 2022, 01:34 PM	#4
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 415	This is probably another statement of the bl**ding obvious, but they have a naval\maritime look about them. Regards Richard PS. and not very well cast.

13th January 2022, 02:36 PM	#5
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	This was also my thought, even when I got them from a castle nearby in south Germany….

13th January 2022, 07:17 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,259	The join between the barrel and the trunnions looks a lot like a corroded arc welding bead, I'd think a mould pattern would have a smoother transition. I don't think Heinrich VIII had any arc-welders.