Some kind of dha?

Ian · 7th June 2006, 09:26 PM

The long handle is typical of Siamese cavalry swords. The hilt is probably original to the blade. I would guess late 19th C but hard to say from pictures.

Ian.

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Originally Posted by Flavio

Puff, Andrew, Ian, thank you very much! Could be so old (18th - 19th century)!?! Wow

I'll post better pictures as soon as it will arrive. Thanks again. Just a question: this could be an original Siamese calvary sword, i mean that also the handle is original, or a Siamese calvary BLADE, remounted wih this long handle (sorry for my ignorance

)? thanks

Flavio · 7th June 2006, 10:13 PM

Thank you very much Ian, i hope that will arrive soon

Flavio · 18th June 2006, 12:41 PM

Ok, it's arrived!!! The first three pictures show as the dha is arrived, not so bad conditions, apart for the scabbard that is completely open. I have cleaned the blade and lightly etched (my first time!!!) with vinegar, quite hot water and a drop of shampo. The blade shows a very nice lamination

The cap on the bottom of the handle is copper, maybe a later restoration. Now i'm trying to restor the scabbard: i'm glue the two pieces together and than i will try to redone the rattan wire (at least someone of the many that in the past held togeteher the scabbard). I'll post some pictures when the work is ended. Comments are welcome. Thank you

RhysMichael · 19th June 2006, 02:16 PM

A nice differential hardening line on the blade

Valjhun · 19th June 2006, 02:23 PM

Am I ill or I'm seeing hammon on that dha?

Flavio: Siccome non ho mai trattato alcun lama, vorrei chiederti come hai fatto. Cos'e vinegar? aceto???? ciao e grazie!

Mark · 19th June 2006, 03:37 PM

Flavio,

Very nice blade. It is hard to say whether the hard edge is differential tempering or an inserted edge (both are seen). Differential tempering is most commonly done by heating just the edge and the quenching, which results in this kind of uneven temper. I think that the very different harnesses (seem from the much lighter edge area) might be from lamination. Is there any trace at all of a welding seam along the line where the two meet?

About the scabbard: I suggest not gluing it, as this is the traditional way scabbards (faak) are made in Thailand. The halves are held together by bands, rather than by gluing. Often braided rattan is used, but you may be able to find an alternative (braided wire, for example).

Valjhun: Yep, "vineger" = aceto.

Flavio · 19th June 2006, 10:02 PM

Hello Guys, thank you very much

. Mark, there is no traces of welding along the line or at least i can't see them. Yes, i will try to put togheter the two halves with some kind of wire: for me it's difficult to find here in Italy rattan, but i will try with a vegetal fiber that here we call it CANAPA and maybe in english is hemp, i think

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Valjhun i have sent you a PM

18th June 2006, 12:41 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Ok, it's arrived!!! The first three pictures show as the dha is arrived, not so bad conditions, apart for the scabbard that is completely open. I have cleaned the blade and lightly etched (my first time!!!) with vinegar, quite hot water and a drop of shampo. The blade shows a very nice lamination The cap on the bottom of the handle is copper, maybe a later restoration. Now i'm trying to restor the scabbard: i'm glue the two pieces together and than i will try to redone the rattan wire (at least someone of the many that in the past held togeteher the scabbard). I'll post some pictures when the work is ended. Comments are welcome. Thank you Attached Images

7th June 2006, 10:13 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much Ian, i hope that will arrive soon

19th June 2006, 02:16 PM	#4
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	A nice differential hardening line on the blade

19th June 2006, 02:23 PM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Am I ill or I'm seeing hammon on that dha? Flavio: Siccome non ho mai trattato alcun lama, vorrei chiederti come hai fatto. Cos'e vinegar? aceto???? ciao e grazie!

19th June 2006, 03:37 PM	#6
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Flavio, Very nice blade. It is hard to say whether the hard edge is differential tempering or an inserted edge (both are seen). Differential tempering is most commonly done by heating just the edge and the quenching, which results in this kind of uneven temper. I think that the very different harnesses (seem from the much lighter edge area) might be from lamination. Is there any trace at all of a welding seam along the line where the two meet? About the scabbard: I suggest not gluing it, as this is the traditional way scabbards (faak) are made in Thailand. The halves are held together by bands, rather than by gluing. Often braided rattan is used, but you may be able to find an alternative (braided wire, for example). Valjhun: Yep, "vineger" = aceto.

19th June 2006, 10:02 PM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Guys, thank you very much . Mark, there is no traces of welding along the line or at least i can't see them. Yes, i will try to put togheter the two halves with some kind of wire: for me it's difficult to find here in Italy rattan, but i will try with a vegetal fiber that here we call it CANAPA and maybe in english is hemp, i think . Valjhun i have sent you a PM