Period Photos of People with Ethnographic Arms

cyten · 1st October 2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dat_man

the man is georgian but not not khevsur, he is a collector from from the soviet era here is an article about him:
https://museum.ge/index.php?lang_id=...&info_id=15740

very interesting, thanks for the article

Ren Ren · 20th October 2021, 06:23 PM

Probably Annam.
It's a shame that the background is retouched.

kronckew · 20th October 2021, 07:47 PM

Does look photoshopped. The guy on the right doesn't seem too happy about it either. Interesting swords, rather large...

Cool photo tho. 👍

Ren Ren · 20th October 2021, 08:29 PM

In Vietnamese they are called trường gươm 長劔, which means "long sword" or "long saber". By the time photography appeared, it was already an exclusively ceremonial weapon. In temples and shrines, it was often kept in the form of wooden models covered with multi-colored varnish.
Oval wicker shields are even more interesting and rare in my opinion.

dat_man · 29th November 2021, 02:44 PM

Few photos where you can see omani zanzibari nimcha

TVV · 1st December 2021, 10:51 PM

Thank you for these images dat_man. The big photo on the bottom is especially intriguing. It depicts a man of high status with a nice shamshir seated on a fancy chair/throne. The people on his sides have nimcha hilted swords, and the two closest ones appear to have the ivory and gold hilt variety. It is similar to a photo in Hales showing a Comoros vizier with a shamshir and his bodyguards with nimchas. Pradines has a theory that the shamshir in East Africa was a status symbol, reserved only for very high ranking people.

The second row of standing men gets more eclectic when it comes to sidearms with a long saif, a crude shamshir hilted sword and a Western style sabre.

SanibelSwassa · 3rd December 2021, 08:53 AM

Just few additional examples from the archives of Moro peoples with their traditional weapons. Enjoy!

DavidFriedman · 15th October 2023, 04:49 AM

What year was this photo of the two with long sabers?

Ren Ren · 15th October 2023, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidFriedman

What year was this photo of the two with long sabers?

I think this photo was taken between 1880-1920. It will be possible to say more precisely if you are lucky enough to find the original image.

gp · 24th October 2023, 08:30 PM

no photos but drawings from an older period

Gavin Nugent · 23rd December 2023, 02:39 AM

A link from another discussion, Chota Nagpur

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19768

cyten · 28th December 2023, 09:33 AM

Tangiers

20th October 2021, 06:23 PM	#2
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	Probably Annam. It's a shame that the background is retouched. Attached Images

20th October 2021, 08:29 PM	#4
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	In Vietnamese they are called trường gươm 長劔, which means "long sword" or "long saber". By the time photography appeared, it was already an exclusively ceremonial weapon. In temples and shrines, it was often kept in the form of wooden models covered with multi-colored varnish. Oval wicker shields are even more interesting and rare in my opinion. Last edited by Ren Ren; 20th October 2021 at 08:47 PM. Reason: Supplement

29th November 2021, 02:44 PM	#5
dat_man Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 16	Few photos where you can see omani zanzibari nimcha Attached Images

3rd December 2021, 08:53 AM	#7
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Moro photo’s that I didn’t see posted Just few additional examples from the archives of Moro peoples with their traditional weapons. Enjoy! Attached Images

15th October 2023, 04:49 AM	#8
DavidFriedman Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 113	What year was this photo of the two with long sabers? Attached Images

20th October 2021, 07:47 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	Does look photoshopped. The guy on the right doesn't seem too happy about it either. Interesting swords, rather large... Cool photo tho. 👍

1st December 2021, 10:51 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,664	Thank you for these images dat_man. The big photo on the bottom is especially intriguing. It depicts a man of high status with a nice shamshir seated on a fancy chair/throne. The people on his sides have nimcha hilted swords, and the two closest ones appear to have the ivory and gold hilt variety. It is similar to a photo in Hales showing a Comoros vizier with a shamshir and his bodyguards with nimchas. Pradines has a theory that the shamshir in East Africa was a status symbol, reserved only for very high ranking people. The second row of standing men gets more eclectic when it comes to sidearms with a long saif, a crude shamshir hilted sword and a Western style sabre.

24th October 2023, 08:30 PM	#10
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 830	no photos but drawings from an older period Attached Images

23rd December 2023, 02:39 AM	#11
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A link from another discussion, Chota Nagpur http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19768

28th December 2023, 09:33 AM	#12
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 94	Tangiers Attached Images