Keris owner seeks enlightenment

kino · 2nd June 2006, 03:23 AM

Ariel, you can thank Ma Nature for providing the scenery.

Rick, Mt.St. Helen is too far to be viewed from Seattle. Just an interesting shaped cloud.

Rob T. I thought it looked similar to a Panjang. Thanks.

Rick · 2nd June 2006, 03:29 AM

Kino , here is a shot of my Bahari ; it has quite a curve compared to your example . I must admit that the ukiran on yours looks much more handy for the fatal plunge than the one on mine which is a redress of an old blade .
This blade is a little over 13" .

Alam Shah · 2nd June 2006, 05:51 AM

AFAIK, the sumatran Bahari, Anak Alang, Alang, and most panjang shares the same ricikans (design) and is straight bladed (there are of course panjang with luks). The difference is the length.

Kino, A nice keris indeed. An Anak Alang category. Correct me if I'm wrong.

kino · 2nd June 2006, 01:15 PM

So it's Sumatran, Anak Alam that is missing a stemmed selut. What about the hilt? Could it be.........plastic? I have heard or read somewhere that sometimes plastic was used??

Rick, you also got a beauty there.

Alam Shah · 2nd June 2006, 01:52 PM

Kino, ....errr... it's an Anak Alang (not Alam

).

You can see VVV's panjang examples for some ideas for the pendokok (stemmed selut).
http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...bum.php&page=3

For your hilt...hmmm... maybe should use the 'hot needle' test to see if it's plastic.

Rick · 2nd June 2006, 02:22 PM

Alam Shah , if I might ask ; the example I show is not a Bahari either ?
Can you offer some insights on it please ?
Thanks

Rick

Alam Shah · 2nd June 2006, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Alam Shah , if I might ask ; the example I show is not a Bahari either ?
Can you offer some insights on it please ?
Thanks
Rick

Afaik, the shortest blade length is known as Bahari (est. from 6" to 10"), then Anak Alang (est. from 10" to 14"), Alang (est. from 14" to 16"), then the panjang (est. from 16" and above.) These are just estimates.

If anyone have an exact measurement, kindly advise accordingly.

kino · 3rd June 2006, 03:18 AM

[QUOTE=Alam Shah]Kino, ....errr... it's an Anak Alang (not Alam

).

Alam Shah, like I said in the beginning of this thread "I'm in a field in which I know next to nothing". Thanks for correcting me

I think I'll forgo the hot needle test and live with not really knowing.

Anyone out there with a pendodok collecting dust, PM me and I'll give it a good home.

kai · 3rd June 2006, 09:06 AM

Quote:

I think I'll forgo the hot needle test and live with not really knowing.

You can easily do that test within the hilt's hole for the tang without (noticeable) damage!

Regards,
Kai

Alam Shah · 3rd June 2006, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kino

Anyone out there with a pendokok collecting dust, PM me and I'll give it a good home.

What's the diameter of the hilt and the tang? To ensure a good fit.

2nd June 2006, 03:29 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Kino , here is a shot of my Bahari ; it has quite a curve compared to your example . I must admit that the ukiran on yours looks much more handy for the fatal plunge than the one on mine which is a redress of an old blade . This blade is a little over 13" . Attached Images

2nd June 2006, 05:51 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Keris Bahari, Anak Alang, Alang... AFAIK, the sumatran Bahari, Anak Alang, Alang, and most panjang shares the same ricikans (design) and is straight bladed (there are of course panjang with luks). The difference is the length. Kino, A nice keris indeed. An Anak Alang category. Correct me if I'm wrong. Last edited by Alam Shah; 2nd June 2006 at 06:21 AM.

2nd June 2006, 03:23 AM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Ariel, you can thank Ma Nature for providing the scenery. Rick, Mt.St. Helen is too far to be viewed from Seattle. Just an interesting shaped cloud. Rob T. I thought it looked similar to a Panjang. Thanks.

2nd June 2006, 01:15 PM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	So it's Sumatran, Anak Alam that is missing a stemmed selut. What about the hilt? Could it be.........plastic? I have heard or read somewhere that sometimes plastic was used?? Rick, you also got a beauty there.

2nd June 2006, 01:52 PM	#5
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Kino, ....errr... it's an Anak Alang (not Alam ). You can see VVV's panjang examples for some ideas for the pendokok (stemmed selut). http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...bum.php&page=3 For your hilt...hmmm... maybe should use the 'hot needle' test to see if it's plastic.

2nd June 2006, 02:22 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Alam Shah , if I might ask ; the example I show is not a Bahari either ? Can you offer some insights on it please ? Thanks Rick

3rd June 2006, 03:18 AM	#8
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	[QUOTE=Alam Shah]Kino, ....errr... it's an Anak Alang (not Alam ). Alam Shah, like I said in the beginning of this thread "I'm in a field in which I know next to nothing". Thanks for correcting me I think I'll forgo the hot needle test and live with not really knowing. Anyone out there with a pendodok collecting dust, PM me and I'll give it a good home.