Katzbalger - request for assistance in identifying blade mark

cornelistromp · 10th July 2021, 08:13 AM

with post #36 I didn't mean Italy specifically but generally punched blade marks are not inlaid with latten. (of course with exceptions).
This applies to both Italy and other countries such as Germany
The italian examples of the Castle tower mark are all punched, the mark of the katzbalger in post 1 is "incised" and inlaid with latten.

the orb and cross is (more) common on blades from solingen, eg several members of the Wundes family used these, Iohann Wundes in the second half of the 16th century. The two examples of orb and cross in this threath , attributed to someone else, I believe are the marks of Iohannes Wundes.

Then the blade geometry, a ricasso and a diamond shaped cross section can be found on the most famous katzbalger in Vienna, but also on a couple katzbalgers in Dresden, probably all of german origin.

@ fernando attached a tower and a rake ;-)

best,

fernando · 10th July 2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cornelistromp

...@ fernando attached a tower and a rake ;-...

So it could be that Sir James Mann was not such romantic knight; more of a fan of gardening

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cornelistromp · 14th July 2021, 12:00 PM

the katzbalger of Ulrich von Schellenberg mentioned in post #43

fernando · 14th July 2021, 01:46 PM

Gorgeous

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df1967 · 14th July 2021, 07:08 PM

From all Landsknecht swords world wide which I know or ever saw the most beautiful Katzbalger! Typicall in form and shape for this type around 1515/20! Great pics, thanks!

Philip · 14th July 2021, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

So it could be that Sir James Mann was not such romantic knight; more of a fan of gardening

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Well, understandable considering the English love of and expertise in gardening. Maybe if he he had an ovicultural background, he might have seen a sheep-comb:

Rick · 15th July 2021, 12:13 AM

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cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	with post #36 I didn't mean Italy specifically but generally punched blade marks are not inlaid with latten. (of course with exceptions). This applies to both Italy and other countries such as Germany The italian examples of the Castle tower mark are all punched, the mark of the katzbalger in post 1 is "incised" and inlaid with latten. the orb and cross is (more) common on blades from solingen, eg several members of the Wundes family used these, Iohann Wundes in the second half of the 16th century. The two examples of orb and cross in this threath , attributed to someone else, I believe are the marks of Iohannes Wundes. Then the blade geometry, a ricasso and a diamond shaped cross section can be found on the most famous katzbalger in Vienna, but also on a couple katzbalgers in Dresden, probably all of german origin. @ fernando attached a tower and a rake ;-) best, Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 10th July 2021 at 09:21 AM.

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Religious Significance https://woollyhistoryofbritain.wordp...-of-st-blaise/ You never know.

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cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	the katzbalger of Ulrich von Schellenberg mentioned in post #43 Attached Images

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fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Gorgeous .

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df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 50	From all Landsknecht swords world wide which I know or ever saw the most beautiful Katzbalger! Typicall in form and shape for this type around 1515/20! Great pics, thanks!