Kaskara

Tim Simmons · 1st June 2006, 09:45 PM

Is this crude enough. I have more to come , I will show it when it arrives.

Rick · 1st June 2006, 09:54 PM

Ahh , Tim !
Good to see you here .

I'm sure you've got some great examples of Sudanese work to show .

Jeff D · 1st June 2006, 11:20 PM

Hi Valjhun,

As Tim, Rick and kantana have noted, this probably is not the best that the Sudanese can do. Most likely it was made for those travelling for pleasure.

BTW My kaskara is 104 cm total length.

Jeff

Rick · 2nd June 2006, 03:16 AM

Jeff ; I see a mark on the blade ; do you have a closeup of it ?

Jeff D · 2nd June 2006, 04:03 AM

Hi Rick,

I will be happy to show these. They are stamped, and a couple are inlaid with either copper or a red gold. The marks are attributed to Peter Kull the last picture is from "Geschichte Der Solinger Klingenindustrie" by R. Cronau. I think I did post this one before on the old forum. If you want any other close ups I will be more than happy to show this one off, crude they say Hummph...

Jeff

Valjhun · 2nd June 2006, 08:31 AM

Well, I'll repeat myself: MOST of the kaskaras&sudanese weapons today on the market are of crude made, that SURELY DOESN'T mean that everythitng from Sudan is crudely made. There are masterpieces of extreeme craftsmanship coming from there aslo.

On the other hand, saying that this kaskara is made for tourists is verry questionable, as far as I know there were never tourism in Sudan.

Jeff, your kaskara is a gorgeus one with german blade. Beutifull inlays, it surely seems gold.

Quote:

One must admit to the efficacy of the Kaskara as it was one of the major weapons used to break the much vaunted British Square during the war in the Sudan against the Mahdists .

Yes, extreme efficiency showed during the last battle, 45 casualties on the british side and 11.000 on the Mahdist...

Another thing . I've noticed that thoose short ones were carried under the arm with the belt over the shoulder. What about thoose lenghty ones? Were they over worn over the back?

Tim, can you make it even more crude that thisone:

ariel · 2nd June 2006, 11:06 AM

So, gentlemen, is Kaskara a descendent of the early European swords (you know, the crusaders story) or of early pre-islamic Arabian swords?

Rick · 2nd June 2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff D

Hi Rick,

I will be happy to show these. They are stamped, and a couple are inlaid with either copper or a red gold. The marks are attributed to Peter Kull the last picture is from "Geschichte Der Solinger Klingenindustrie" by R. Cronau. I think I did post this one before on the old forum. If you want any other close ups I will be more than happy to show this one off, crude they say Hummph...

Jeff

Jeff , any ideas on this mark ?

Lew · 2nd June 2006, 03:15 PM

Hi All

Speaking of short kaskaras here is one of mine that was posted a while ago.
It has a 23" European blade.

Lew

1st June 2006, 09:45 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,924	Is this crude enough. I have more to come , I will show it when it arrives. Attached Images

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Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Valjhun, As Tim, Rick and kantana have noted, this probably is not the best that the Sudanese can do. Most likely it was made for those travelling for pleasure. BTW My kaskara is 104 cm total length. Jeff Attached Images

2nd June 2006, 04:03 AM	#5
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Rick, I will be happy to show these. They are stamped, and a couple are inlaid with either copper or a red gold. The marks are attributed to Peter Kull the last picture is from "Geschichte Der Solinger Klingenindustrie" by R. Cronau. I think I did post this one before on the old forum. If you want any other close ups I will be more than happy to show this one off, crude they say Hummph... Jeff Attached Images

2nd June 2006, 03:15 PM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi All Speaking of short kaskaras here is one of mine that was posted a while ago. It has a 23" European blade. Lew Attached Images

1st June 2006, 09:54 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Ahh , Tim ! Good to see you here . I'm sure you've got some great examples of Sudanese work to show .

2nd June 2006, 03:16 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Jeff ; I see a mark on the blade ; do you have a closeup of it ?

2nd June 2006, 11:06 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	So, gentlemen, is Kaskara a descendent of the early European swords (you know, the crusaders story) or of early pre-islamic Arabian swords?