Filipino cannons

[Ian]

I agree with Rick. These appear to have been mounted on the railing of a vessel, which is why they were sometimes called "rail guns." Additional pictures would be very helpful, especially if you could show a scale to indicate the size of what we are seeing in the pictures. I've not seen a breech loading lantaka before.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Ian

.. I've not seen a breech loading lantaka before.

Its alleged predecessor, the CETBANG ... was .

[Battara]

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Battara

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

Which do you mean by this, José ?
You are not referring to the Cetbang of the Majapahit era from my post previous post ...

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[pbleed]

Originally Posted by Battara

This does look like it was a lantaka that was cut and modified to this form.

Thanks for the referenced to "cetbang", clearly there was history to breech loading artillery, but this weapon is certainly of the early 20th century in several regards.
I would appreciate specifics that make it look like a modified lantaka. Please tell me what you are keying in on. Thanks

[Edster]

It might be informative to do a chamber cast and extended into the first part of the barrel. This would give an idea of the round along with bullet diameter used. Cerrosafe is the casting material used by gunsmiths and ammo reloaders and is available from Brownells among others. It doesn't mess up the gun.

Best,
Ed

[fernando]

With your guys tolerance, let me wonder the reason why two guns of so different universe were modified to serve the same purpose; as if different calibers and dimensions did not make it an ureasonable task.
It certainly required an imense work done by someone skilled; not to raise questions on how those inventions ensure tight gas sealing on the rear plates ... even their bursting; we are talking deflagrating ammunitions here.
On the other hand, it appears inconceivable that a person goes through all this laborious work to set up a work of decoration; yet …

[Rick]

It occurred to me that the short one could have been used as a man trap; but then I considered the loss of such a weapon to it's owners and I discarded that idea.
I would guess that both are center fire weapons, but I don't see any mechanism to fire them, nor obvious firing pins present as they are now.
I'd imagine that the 37 cartridge would hold a heck of a lot of large buckshot.

I'd be willing to bet that the Lantaka has also been modified for a foreign round much as the 1873 MAS revolver was modified for 45acp in WWII.

A little more complicated in this instance.