Koummya and Janbiya

[David R]

I have owned a few of the souvenir Koummya over the years, and rather liked them though disappointed in the blades. In fact I bought a relatively new one recently via this forum, which I am very happy with.
The old style real weapons do turn up from time to time, the difference being a forged blade, rather than one filed out of flat stock. This is the one I bought about 15 years ago at an open air antique (and junk) fair.

[David R]

And one with a 30cm ruler for scale.

[mariusgmioc]

To me, all three Koummyas look rather low end touristy 20th century.

More about Koummyas you can find at the link below:

http://vikingsword.com/ethsword/koummya/index.html

The Jambiya does not appear to be ethnographically specific/traditional and it is definitely not Omani or Yemeni, in my opinion. The workmanship doesn't appear to be neither Indian or Pakistani but more like African.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

To me, all three Koummyas look rather low end touristy 20th century.

Hello Marius,

The one in the middle is definitely old/antique, have a look to the holes where the rings let the traces of long time use.

Regards,
Detlef

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Marius,

The one in the middle is definitely old/antique, have a look to the holes where the rings let the traces of long time use.

Regards,
Detlef

I agree, but the scabbard only, not the dagger.
The scabbard is from the 19th and the dagger from the mid or late 20th c like the others.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Marius,

The one in the middle is definitely old/antique, have a look to the holes where the rings let the traces of long time use.

Regards,
Detlef

Hola Detlef,

I somehow overlooked the scabbards.

Indeed, the scabbard of the middle one has some significant wear but that doesn't necessarily make it old. The metal of the scabbard is brass and tin alloy, which are soft metals, and if it was mounted on steel rings one may get this wear after a few months of wearing.

Anyhow, the blade appears to be flat, cut & filed from sheet/band stock.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hola Detlef,

I somehow overlooked the scabbards.

Indeed, the scabbard of the middle one has some significant wear but that doesn't necessarily make it old. The metal of the scabbard is brass and tin alloy, which are soft metals, and if it was mounted on steel rings one may get this wear after a few months of wearing.

Anyhow, the blade appears to be flat, cut & filed from sheet/band stock.

Hello Marius,

I guess the scabbard is from brass and silver, such a wear don't come from a few month of wearing and I am with Kubur that the scabbard is 19th century but you and Kubur could by correct by the blade. But I would like to see better pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Sajen

I guess the scabbard is from brass and silver,
Regards,
Detlef

Again Detlef is correct brass on one side and brass covered with silver sheet on the other.

Asomer, can you please put the dagger from the left side in the scabbard in the middle? I have the feeling that there is a missmatch...

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by David R

And one with a 30cm ruler for scale.

This is a good stuff, David

You should buy the scabbard from Asomer, it will be perfect for it.

[Saracen]

Jambiya handle inlaid elements are made in Indian style.
They are a bit primitive, but I agree with Gonzoadler. Pakistan is likely.

Mariusgmioc, I really like your Koummya in the neighboring topic
Congratulations)