Coming back to y'all with another Keris!

Rick · 4th March 2021, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I don't know about kerises, but the two cuts were made at a later time by mechanical means (most likely by sawing or grinding).

There's no erosion of those edges of the cuts which I would take as evidence of modification done there.

David · 4th March 2021, 11:59 PM

Oh, i have no doubt this keris was modified, and not with any particular skill either. I am sorry to say that this was most probably done to make a low grade keris more interesting for sale in the marketplace. You can find this as a legitimate dhapur which i believe might be called dhapur trisulo, but this would not be a good example of that.

maximummason · 5th March 2021, 01:13 AM

Dear all,
Seems like you might be right. I don't have it in my hands yet, but it's unfortunate to hear that. I am really confused as to why someone would ruin a perfectly good piece. You win some you lose some, i guess....

Rick · 6th March 2021, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by maximummason

Dear all,
Seems like you might be right. I don't have it in my hands yet, but it's unfortunate to hear that. I am really confused as to why someone would ruin a perfectly good piece. You win some you lose some, i guess....

Knowledge is a real money saver Max.
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A. G. Maisey · 6th March 2021, 01:46 AM

Thanks David.

Yeah, that looks like it comes from Pak Djeno's dhapur sheet:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/DHAPU...NGTODJENO.html

I regret I cannot make a favourable remark here, so I'll say nothing.

David · 6th March 2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Thanks David.

Yeah, that looks like it comes from Pak Djeno's dhapur sheet:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/DHAPU...NGTODJENO.html

I regret I cannot make a favourable remark here, so I'll say nothing.

No worries Alan. I was simply trying to establish that at least some people see this dhapur as a legitimate one. I don't know that i have ever seen this dhapur on a keris that was originally forged this way though. I've personally never been fond of this type of alteration.

A. G. Maisey · 6th March 2021, 08:13 PM

David, from what I have seen of this form of keris it is something that started to appear during the 1960's in Jogja.

"1960's" is a guess, I've never seen one that I could definitely place pre-WWII.

Jogja is not a guess.

5th March 2021, 01:13 AM	#3
maximummason Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 6	Reply Dear all, Seems like you might be right. I don't have it in my hands yet, but it's unfortunate to hear that. I am really confused as to why someone would ruin a perfectly good piece. You win some you lose some, i guess....

4th March 2021, 11:59 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Oh, i have no doubt this keris was modified, and not with any particular skill either. I am sorry to say that this was most probably done to make a low grade keris more interesting for sale in the marketplace. You can find this as a legitimate dhapur which i believe might be called dhapur trisulo, but this would not be a good example of that.

6th March 2021, 01:46 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thanks David. Yeah, that looks like it comes from Pak Djeno's dhapur sheet:- http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/DHAPU...NGTODJENO.html I regret I cannot make a favourable remark here, so I'll say nothing.

6th March 2021, 08:13 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	David, from what I have seen of this form of keris it is something that started to appear during the 1960's in Jogja. "1960's" is a guess, I've never seen one that I could definitely place pre-WWII. Jogja is not a guess.