IOOF Ames Chicopee unique?

JoeCanada42 · 2nd February 2021, 06:41 PM

Thanks again Jim, I will try to contact them, I will update the thread when i learn more.

Hotspur · 5th February 2021, 02:56 AM

SH&G bought entire swords from Ames, as well as mounting fancy swords. They were literally around the corner from Tiffany.

The books mentioned are fairly inexpensive and available directly from Mowbray Publishers.

The blade is roughly the same as the 1860 staff&staff corp aka staff&field and while not as formidable as the 1850 foot officer or staff&field sabres, the blade is tempered and would hold an edge. It is in no way meant to be a military issue sword.

It might be Mentioned also that Ames was selling swords to fraternal orders pretty much back to the 1830s, when Nathan started his works with the Springfield address. After the American Civil War, the fraternal groups blossomed even ,more but standard militia swords of the Mexican War period and even earlier, the Odd Fellows were buying the m1832 foot artillery swords and having them etched at the source (Ames)

I suppose the only reason it might not be the person suggested is anyone else with the name. For instance this 1890 article
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/5732...isits-home-of/
and 1888
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4684...ur-3-may-1888/

How many more?

Cheers
GC

in addendum
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masoni...oof_jewels.htm

JoeCanada42 · 5th February 2021, 03:38 PM

Thank you Hotspur, Very Informative, I looked at the Swords you Mentioned. I do see the same blade, very cool. Great history aswell thanks.

2nd February 2021, 06:41 PM	#1
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	Thanks again Jim, I will try to contact them, I will update the thread when i learn more.

5th February 2021, 02:56 AM	#2
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 528	SH&G bought entire swords from Ames, as well as mounting fancy swords. They were literally around the corner from Tiffany. The books mentioned are fairly inexpensive and available directly from Mowbray Publishers. The blade is roughly the same as the 1860 staff&staff corp aka staff&field and while not as formidable as the 1850 foot officer or staff&field sabres, the blade is tempered and would hold an edge. It is in no way meant to be a military issue sword. It might be Mentioned also that Ames was selling swords to fraternal orders pretty much back to the 1830s, when Nathan started his works with the Springfield address. After the American Civil War, the fraternal groups blossomed even ,more but standard militia swords of the Mexican War period and even earlier, the Odd Fellows were buying the m1832 foot artillery swords and having them etched at the source (Ames) I suppose the only reason it might not be the person suggested is anyone else with the name. For instance this 1890 article https://www.newspapers.com/clip/5732...isits-home-of/ and 1888 https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4684...ur-3-may-1888/ How many more? Cheers GC in addendum http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masoni...oof_jewels.htm

5th February 2021, 03:38 PM	#3
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	Thank you Hotspur, Very Informative, I looked at the Swords you Mentioned. I do see the same blade, very cool. Great history aswell thanks.