Solomon Isl's help.

fireiceviper · 2nd December 2020, 11:35 AM

Sorry Tim for sure made for market... look at the inlay also very very new.

mariusgmioc · 2nd December 2020, 12:03 PM

Very new for sure.
Made for the market?! Maybe.
However, it looks well made employing traditional motives and techniques, at least to my undiscerning eyes.
So to me, it is an original and traditional item absolutely worthy to be collected.
Moreover, by purchasing and collecting recently made but traditional items, we can help keeping the tradition and crafts alive.

Tim Simmons · 2nd December 2020, 04:48 PM

I know it is not antique but if you read all the information, Santa Ana Island and Santa Catalina Island where still practising traditional beliefs even in the 1960s so as far as I am concerned we do not know how it was collected. We know the social context of the form. Could quite possibly have been the kind of thing missionaries bring back.

Interesting made for the market stuff here. Some what different?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzNJ_km93S8

Tim Simmons · 9th December 2020, 03:52 PM

Do not compare it to this type of market work. It is very different, to start with it carved from a heavy palmwood not not timber like the gift market carvings as shown here.

2nd December 2020, 04:48 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,922	I know it is not antique but if you read all the information, Santa Ana Island and Santa Catalina Island where still practising traditional beliefs even in the 1960s so as far as I am concerned we do not know how it was collected. We know the social context of the form. Could quite possibly have been the kind of thing missionaries bring back. Interesting made for the market stuff here. Some what different? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzNJ_km93S8 Last edited by Tim Simmons; 3rd December 2020 at 04:43 PM.

9th December 2020, 03:52 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,922	Do not compare it to this type of market work. It is very different, to start with it carved from a heavy palmwood not not timber like the gift market carvings as shown here. Attached Images

2nd December 2020, 11:35 AM	#1
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Sorry Tim for sure made for market... look at the inlay also very very new.

2nd December 2020, 12:03 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	Very new for sure. Made for the market?! Maybe. However, it looks well made employing traditional motives and techniques, at least to my undiscerning eyes. So to me, it is an original and traditional item absolutely worthy to be collected. Moreover, by purchasing and collecting recently made but traditional items, we can help keeping the tradition and crafts alive.