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21st May 2006, 11:32 AM
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book title...
Hmm...interesting question BluErf. What's the title of the book?
 Unfortunately, I don't have the answers.  Perhaps someone like Boedhi Adhitya, Marto Suwignyo or perhap A.G. Maisey would be able to assist or answer these questions. 
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21st May 2006, 12:59 PM
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How long is a piece of string? ...  Take your pick... the definition of a kraton piece depends on whom you speak to. It can mean pieces owned by previous and current rulers..... it can mean pieces owned by previous and current kraton personnel......it can mean pieces commissioned by the ruler or kraton....In any case, I'd be surprised if they weren't made by an Empu instead of a panday ( here I make a distinction between Empu and panday, as many people in Java do). As well, it can mean just normal pieces.. or it can mean pieces with tuah or pusakas.... Or any combination of the above and more In my opinion, the Holy Grail is the pusaka tuah that have traditionally been thrown away or given away for safe-keeping by forebears, prior to their demise.Believe me, they DO exist Ko nie bijak laa.
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21st May 2006, 01:43 PM
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MANY SELLER NEED TO GET PROFIT BY TELLING NOT TRUE.
SAID THAT A KRIS WHICH THEY OFFERED IS CAME FROM ROYAL PALACE, BUT ACTUALLY NOT  JUST BECAUSE THE PENDOK WHICH USED HAS ROYAL SYMBOL THAN IT CAN SAID AS ROYAL KRISS ? .............. WE KNEW EACH OTHER ABOUT TRICK LIKE THIS HUH ? DID YOU, DEOCON ? |
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21st May 2006, 04:07 PM
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I don't think we met, so we dont know eachother, nor knew eachother. In case you mean that some seller use tricks to sell I agree, they probably need to do so, I don't. Maybe you are one of the sellers who is upset as well because of our 1 buck policy? Are you? Ps its Doecon, not deocon. |
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21st May 2006, 03:30 PM
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21st May 2006, 03:44 PM
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Interesting theories... "the Holy Grail is not a chalice... but..."
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21st May 2006, 04:13 PM
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... I'm starting to wonder what is the real purpose of your question Have a nice day. |
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21st May 2006, 05:01 PM
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Doecon and Sepang, i hope you don't think that this forum is the proper place to get into a dealer's war. I would hate to see this thread digress into such child's play.
As Alam Shah is not a dealer i suspect you may have the wrong impression of what his purpose in starting this thread was. It seems pretty obvious to me and it has brought up some seriously interesting questions which i would love to see answered before you guys start throwing stones and get this thread locked. I have my own suspicions as to what actually qualifies a keris as a kraton piece (as i am sure Alam Shah does as well), but i also would love to hear what others with more experience with the kraton itself might have to say on the subject. I will, however, go out on a limb here by saying that i seriously doubt the keris in question here have had anything to do with the kraton by any of the criteria that BluErf brings up. Can't say why......just a feeling i guess. 
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21st May 2006, 05:04 PM
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Thank you David .
I suggest someone start a "What Constitutes A Kraton Keris thread because I am closing this one . |
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