Last one: A Keris Madura

CharlesS · 22nd September 2020, 01:41 PM

Looks to be a small, well worn, keris Madura. The wooden hilt is quite simple by Madurese standards. The wrangka is more impressive.

Insights appreciated.

Jean · 22nd September 2020, 02:13 PM

AFAIK this style of hilt is called sandang walikat. A nice and old specimen of Madurese kris.

Interested Party · 22nd September 2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

AFAIK this style of hilt is called sandang walikat. A nice and old specimen of Madurese kris.

Is sandang walikat derived from kocet kocetan? The first two pictures particularly brought that to mind.

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Jean · 22nd September 2020, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

Is sandang walikat derived from kocet kocetan? The first two pictures particularly brought that to mind.

No, sandang walikat designates a style of triangular kris scabbard from Java or Madura, see attached specimen, and also apparently a style of Madurese hilt, see pic.
Regards

Jean · 22nd September 2020, 08:39 PM

By the way, the pendok seems to be missing and the black horn inserts on the gandar are probaly more recent than the waranga itself.

Interested Party · 27th September 2020, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

No, sandang walikat designates a style of triangular kris scabbard from Java or Madura, see attached specimen, and also apparently a style of Madurese hilt, see pic.
Regards

Are the hilts called sandang walikat because the hilt profile is triangular like the scabbard? Would Sanjen's post #43 of this thread, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=repair, contain sandang walikat hilts as well, even though these hilts are planar and not carved?

David · 28th September 2020, 04:39 AM

Charles, i find this Madura keris of yours quite enchanting. Thanks for showing.

A. G. Maisey · 28th September 2020, 04:48 AM

IP, I would suggest that these hilts are called sandang walikat hilts because they are the correct hilt to wear with a sandang walikat wrongko.

sandang = clothing

walikat = shoulder blade (scapula)

Paul B. · 28th September 2020, 01:02 PM

Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Marcokeris · 28th September 2020, 01:39 PM

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Amazed that the sheath look identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Beautiful sheath! @@

David · 28th September 2020, 04:34 PM

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Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.

Well, they do have similar decorative collars and a black horn toe on the gandar, yes, but these two sheaths are hardly identical. In fact, similarities aside, they are two completely different sheath forms.

Jean · 1st October 2020, 11:07 AM

Another Madurese scabbard in sandang walikat style with horn inserts, these are not that rare IMO.

Interested Party · 2nd October 2020, 05:21 PM

Could these horn pieces be repairs? Both the buntut and the joint the wranka are areas that are frequently stressed.

Jean · 2nd October 2020, 08:39 PM

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Could these horn pieces be repairs? Both the buntut and the joint the wranka are areas that are frequently stressed.

IMO these horn pieces could be either stylistic additions, or repairs, or for increasing the scabbard length and matching the blade length.

22nd September 2020, 01:41 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Last one: A Keris Madura Looks to be a small, well worn, keris Madura. The wooden hilt is quite simple by Madurese standards. The wrangka is more impressive. Insights appreciated. Attached Images

28th September 2020, 01:02 PM	#9
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar. Attached Images Last edited by Paul B.; 28th September 2020 at 03:29 PM.

1st October 2020, 11:07 AM	#12
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Another Madurese scabbard in sandang walikat style with horn inserts, these are not that rare IMO. Attached Images

22nd September 2020, 02:13 PM	#2
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	AFAIK this style of hilt is called sandang walikat. A nice and old specimen of Madurese kris.

22nd September 2020, 08:39 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	By the way, the pendok seems to be missing and the black horn inserts on the gandar are probaly more recent than the waranga itself.

28th September 2020, 04:39 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Charles, i find this Madura keris of yours quite enchanting. Thanks for showing.

28th September 2020, 04:48 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	IP, I would suggest that these hilts are called sandang walikat hilts because they are the correct hilt to wear with a sandang walikat wrongko. sandang = clothing walikat = shoulder blade (scapula)

2nd October 2020, 05:21 PM	#13
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 511	Could these horn pieces be repairs? Both the buntut and the joint the wranka are areas that are frequently stressed.