Origin of this mandau?

A. G. Maisey · 30th September 2020, 10:06 AM

Jeff, my knowledge of Dyak weaponry is slight, however using "Hornbill & Dragon" as a reference, I'd be inclined to give this mandau as Kayan.

As for Dyaks using synthetics, the old Dyak ways have been gone for a long time, even before the clearing and the palm oil plantations sent them out of the jungles, they were using modern materials to do repairs.

JeffS · 30th September 2020, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jeff, my knowledge of Dyak weaponry is slight, however using "Hornbill & Dragon" as a reference, I'd be inclined to give this mandau as Kayan.

As for Dyaks using synthetics, the old Dyak ways have been gone for a long time, even before the clearing and the palm oil plantations sent them out of the jungles, they were using modern materials to do repairs.

Thank you Alan! I'm looking forward to a time I am more settled down and can start hunting for books (and have a workshop). I am pretty much limited to online information sources. Not much on ethnographic weapons available as ebooks, though I did get Stone as an ebook.

A. G. Maisey · 30th September 2020, 10:42 PM

Actually Jeff, 50 or 60 years ago, Stone was about all we had.

GIO · 1st October 2020, 11:14 AM

You can find info in the little volume "Indonesisce Schwertgriffe" (some 40 pages, mostly dedicated to mandau hilts). It s an article from "Annalen des K.K. Naturhistorischen Hofmuseum", written in Wien in 1899 by Dr Franz Steindacher.
I have found it at Aquila Natural History Books through Abebooks.
email: aquilabooks@planet.nl. Unfortunately (for me) it is written in German. But I could enjoy the good drawings ....

kai · 1st October 2020, 09:36 PM

Hello Giovanni,

I reckon you mean the paper by Wilhelm Hein (rather than Steindachner)?

That's an important source, indeed. However, there is no similar hilt included in this study.

Regards,
Kai

GIO · 2nd October 2020, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Giovanni,

I reckon you mean the paper by Wilhelm Hein (rather than Steindachner)?

That's an important source, indeed. However, there is no similar hilt included in this study.

Regards,
Kai

Yes Kai, you are right. The author is Wilhelm Hein. Steindacher is the collector of articles composing the "annalen" of the museum.

30th September 2020, 10:06 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,134	Jeff, my knowledge of Dyak weaponry is slight, however using "Hornbill & Dragon" as a reference, I'd be inclined to give this mandau as Kayan. As for Dyaks using synthetics, the old Dyak ways have been gone for a long time, even before the clearing and the palm oil plantations sent them out of the jungles, they were using modern materials to do repairs.

30th September 2020, 10:42 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,134	Actually Jeff, 50 or 60 years ago, Stone was about all we had.

1st October 2020, 11:14 AM	#4
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332	You can find info in the little volume "Indonesisce Schwertgriffe" (some 40 pages, mostly dedicated to mandau hilts). It s an article from "Annalen des K.K. Naturhistorischen Hofmuseum", written in Wien in 1899 by Dr Franz Steindacher. I have found it at Aquila Natural History Books through Abebooks. email: aquilabooks@planet.nl. Unfortunately (for me) it is written in German. But I could enjoy the good drawings ....

1st October 2020, 09:36 PM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Giovanni, I reckon you mean the paper by Wilhelm Hein (rather than Steindachner)? That's an important source, indeed. However, there is no similar hilt included in this study. Regards, Kai