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Old 6th September 2020, 10:42 PM   #1
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Quite attractive silver work on the hilt and top of scabbard. The square piece with the carved carnelian is very reminiscent of some Central Asian jewelry pieces we have. While carnelian is common in this jewelry, I have not seen a carved stone therein.
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Old 7th September 2020, 08:53 AM   #2
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I can't resist to comment!

This is not a stone but a red molded glass.

Here an Iraki khanjar with the same glasses from 1900-1920.

The old Yemeni flag has a moon and a star.

What is the common point between Yemen and Irak? Ottoman occupation


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Old 7th September 2020, 05:55 PM   #3
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Hello,

Thank you everybody for your message,

Kubur, why not comment ? Merci pour ta réponse ,

I don't think it's the same stuff / glass but exactly the same design,
maybe another mix of molded glass/pâte de verre, less shiny and thicker...

Sure, it's difficult/impossible? to carve the stars with the central dot on a stone
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Old 7th September 2020, 07:57 PM   #4
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just for share,

this pendant I bought time ago,
coming from turkmenistan
I'm sure this time: with a carved cornelian stone

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Old 8th September 2020, 09:19 AM   #5
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The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.
Hajj beads are worn by Muslims who have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, These are made from a gorgeous crimson glass with Arabic writing and symbols.
These beads are made in the Czech Republic (former Czechoslovakia) especially for pilgrims to Mecca.
Only those who have made the journey (the hajj) are entitled to wear them, but the beads sometimes find their way into traders' pouches and are sold to non-pilgrims.
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Old 8th September 2020, 11:00 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova
The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.
Extremely interesting
Do you know if they were designed for the Ottoman / Turkish market too?
(with the flag)
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Old 8th September 2020, 12:24 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova
The "stone" in question is a Czech made molded glass bead, so called Czech "Hajj" trade bead. Age: early to mid 1900's. Very common in Islamic jewellery as well.
Hajj beads are worn by Muslims who have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, These are made from a gorgeous crimson glass with Arabic writing and symbols.
These beads are made in the Czech Republic (former Czechoslovakia) especially for pilgrims to Mecca.
Only those who have made the journey (the hajj) are entitled to wear them, but the beads sometimes find their way into traders' pouches and are sold to non-pilgrims.
Didn't know these Hadj beads !

Thanks a lot Tatyana !!!
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