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			Hello everybody, 
		
		
		
			I wanted to show you these two small swords, I think they are old algerian flyssas but with interesting ottoman influences : one with a nice carved scabard and a silver/white metal hilt with a small guard who reminds me an ottoman style. The second, a crude straight- little curved yatagan like blade but with a carateristic flyssa hilt shape. Both north africans ? Algerians ? What do you think ? Kind regards  | 
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			and the yatagan-like...
		 
		
		
		
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			Both are Algerian. There are multiple threads on the issue, but it generally appears that the flyssa originated from the yataghan. I have one that has retained many yataghan features, but shorter than your impressive example.
		 
		
		
		
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			Hello, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thank you for your comment ! Congratulations for your sword ! Nice and complete with the scabbard ! In ''my model'', the blade is not made with the same steel than the usual flyssas, seems better steel made for fighting and no decorations, that's why I wonder about it's origin. but maybe it's different because it's just an older model ?... For the second sword with the chiseled metal-silver hilt and the small guard, I think it's not a common shape, I wonder if this model was made for high ranked persons or chief or maybe a later change or just a fantasy ? Kind regards  | 
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