Austrian halberd

Victrix · 7th June 2020, 06:04 PM

I found these two halberds similarly adorned with the cross of St Andrew.

They are described as:

German halberd ca 1580, and

Styrian halberd ca 1580

Victrix · 19th June 2020, 11:46 AM

After some gentle cleaning. I like to uncover some glint of steel again.

corrado26 · 19th June 2020, 01:45 PM

In the yearbook of the "Bernisches Histortisches Mueseum 1932, you can fin the mark in question under number 1503, unfortunately without a foto of the pole arm

Victrix · 19th June 2020, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

In the yearbook of the "Bernisches Histortisches Mueseum 1932, you can fin the mark in question under number 1503, unfortunately without a foto of the pole arm

I think it more likely the mark of Pankraz Taller in Bad Hall, Upper Austria. The halberd was purchased in Austria.

Victrix · 25th February 2023, 04:14 PM

A similar halberd with St. Andrews cross and trefoils appears in Ivan Kovac’s book ”Ubojite Ostrice” (Gornja Stubica, 2003) listed as Venetian 1580-90. I’m not aware of Venice being associated with St. Andrew which is typically associated with Scotland or Burgundy/Spain.

Another similar halberd is in the history museum of Celje in Slovenia. Not sure if the Counts of Celje used the St. Andrews cross.

fernando · 26th February 2023, 02:58 PM

From JOHN WALDMAN "HAFTED WEAPONS IN MEDIEVAL AND
RENAISSANCE EUROPE" (2005)

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fernando · 26th February 2023, 03:50 PM

Also my halberd, said to have been forged by Pankraz Thaller, has the three holes set. The smith's mark is a bit blurred, but Dittrich Reinhart from Landeszeughaus Graz museum came to such conclusion. No Saint Andrew's cross, though.
Why do say your example is not munitions grade ? Are the edges not sharp ?

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7th June 2020, 06:04 PM	#1
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 763	I found these two halberds similarly adorned with the cross of St Andrew. They are described as: German halberd ca 1580, and Styrian halberd ca 1580 Attached Images

19th June 2020, 11:46 AM	#2
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 763	After some gentle cleaning. I like to uncover some glint of steel again. Attached Images Last edited by Victrix; 19th June 2020 at 12:42 PM.

19th June 2020, 01:45 PM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,242	In the yearbook of the "Bernisches Histortisches Mueseum 1932, you can fin the mark in question under number 1503, unfortunately without a foto of the pole arm Attached Images

25th February 2023, 04:14 PM	#5
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 763	A similar halberd with St. Andrews cross and trefoils appears in Ivan Kovac’s book ”Ubojite Ostrice” (Gornja Stubica, 2003) listed as Venetian 1580-90. I’m not aware of Venice being associated with St. Andrew which is typically associated with Scotland or Burgundy/Spain. Another similar halberd is in the history museum of Celje in Slovenia. Not sure if the Counts of Celje used the St. Andrews cross. Attached Images

26th February 2023, 02:58 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Coincidence ? ... From JOHN WALDMAN "HAFTED WEAPONS IN MEDIEVAL AND RENAISSANCE EUROPE" (2005) . Attached Images

26th February 2023, 03:50 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Also my halberd, said to have been forged by Pankraz Thaller, has the three holes set. The smith's mark is a bit blurred, but Dittrich Reinhart from Landeszeughaus Graz museum came to such conclusion. No Saint Andrew's cross, though. Why do say your example is not munitions grade ? Are the edges not sharp ? .