Breastplate

fernando · 28th March 2020, 08:59 PM

Duly noted, Dirk

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ulfberth · 28th March 2020, 10:16 PM

this armor is obviously from a high ranked officer and more decorated , but if you look closely it has also brass decoration on the sides , decorated with similar lines across the torso and even a resembling shape. It is in Musee de L'armee in Paris and is described as " armor for the siege circa 1670" if you look closely you can see that this helmet has also reinforcement plates on top. I wonder if the two bolts on the breastplate are used to attach extra reinforcement plates to, this method was used at the time on both helmets and breastplates. This closed helmet for the field circa 1620 with bolt on ( removable) reinforcement plates is in the Metmuseum weight 6,293 kilo.

Lansquenet59 · 29th March 2020, 01:48 PM

Thank you for sharing. I did not know this plate reinforcement system. It's very interesting.

fernando · 29th March 2020, 03:15 PM

It must have been hell to keep head (and body) inside these apparatuses; in a warm/hot climate, they become as hot as stoves. In reading chronicles of the (Portuguese) discoveries period in India, those who wore armour couldn't stand the heat and often had to take them off ... and apparently not the reinforced version.

ulfberth · 29th March 2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

It must have been hell to keep head (and body) inside these apparatuses; in a warm/hot climate, they become as hot as stoves. In reading chronicles of the (Portuguese) discoveries period in India, those who wore armour couldn't stand the heat and often had to take them off ... and apparently not the reinforced version.

take in account the padded liner in helmets and gambason worn under the armor

Victrix · 29th March 2020, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

It must have been hell to keep head (and body) inside these apparatuses; in a warm/hot climate, they become as hot as stoves. In reading chronicles of the (Portuguese) discoveries period in India, those who wore armour couldn't stand the heat and often had to take them off ... and apparently not the reinforced version.

Hence the popularity of wearing mail armour in the Middle East and other hot places. Air could circulate and heat evaporate.

fernando · 29th March 2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Victrix

Hence the popularity of wearing mail armour in the Middle East and other hot places. Air could circulate and heat evaporate.

Yes; no sauna

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ulfberth · 29th March 2020, 07:29 PM

another example of a reinforcement breastplate, to be bolted on and worn on top of the regular breastplate and make it bulletproof, weight 6,662 kg, era circa 1630 origin Italian , Metropolitan Museum.

28th March 2020, 10:16 PM	#2
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 426	this armor is obviously from a high ranked officer and more decorated , but if you look closely it has also brass decoration on the sides , decorated with similar lines across the torso and even a resembling shape. It is in Musee de L'armee in Paris and is described as " armor for the siege circa 1670" if you look closely you can see that this helmet has also reinforcement plates on top. I wonder if the two bolts on the breastplate are used to attach extra reinforcement plates to, this method was used at the time on both helmets and breastplates. This closed helmet for the field circa 1620 with bolt on ( removable) reinforcement plates is in the Metmuseum weight 6,293 kilo. Attached Images

29th March 2020, 07:29 PM	#8
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 426	another example of a reinforcement breastplate, to be bolted on and worn on top of the regular breastplate and make it bulletproof, weight 6,662 kg, era circa 1630 origin Italian , Metropolitan Museum. Attached Images

28th March 2020, 08:59 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Duly noted, Dirk .

29th March 2020, 01:48 PM	#3
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	Thank you for sharing. I did not know this plate reinforcement system. It's very interesting.

29th March 2020, 03:15 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	It must have been hell to keep head (and body) inside these apparatuses; in a warm/hot climate, they become as hot as stoves. In reading chronicles of the (Portuguese) discoveries period in India, those who wore armour couldn't stand the heat and often had to take them off ... and apparently not the reinforced version.