Translation assistance on Ottoman shamshir

RSWORD · 1st March 2020, 02:50 PM

Kwiatek,

Thank you very much for the detailed translation. It provides valuable insight into the sword along with a new avenue of study. These verses were hidden away until now and I am most appreciative to have the opportunity to learn more about them.

kwiatek · 1st March 2020, 09:07 PM

A pleasure. It’s a very interesting and unusual inscription. It’s not impossible an educated Turk would have understood this sophisticated kind of Arabic, but I would have thought it pointed to an origin in the Arabic-speaking parts of the Ottoman Empire

ALEX · 2nd March 2020, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kwiatek

... but I would have thought it pointed to an origin in the Arabic-speaking parts of the Ottoman Empire

Very interesting! Could it be made in Ottoman Syria? the brass crossguard and type of coftgari are indicative of it.

mariusgmioc · 2nd March 2020, 10:13 PM

I am pretty sure the blade is Persian.
Now, when and where the inscription was made is another issue...

2nd March 2020, 10:13 PM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	I am pretty sure the blade is Persian. Now, when and where the inscription was made is another issue... Last edited by mariusgmioc; 3rd March 2020 at 06:14 PM.

1st March 2020, 02:50 PM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	Kwiatek, Thank you very much for the detailed translation. It provides valuable insight into the sword along with a new avenue of study. These verses were hidden away until now and I am most appreciative to have the opportunity to learn more about them.

1st March 2020, 09:07 PM	#2
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 156	A pleasure. It’s a very interesting and unusual inscription. It’s not impossible an educated Turk would have understood this sophisticated kind of Arabic, but I would have thought it pointed to an origin in the Arabic-speaking parts of the Ottoman Empire