Tortuga

David R · 22nd February 2020, 10:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVr2hbE6aW0

urbanspaceman · 22nd February 2020, 10:55 PM

Thanks David; old friends; fond memories.

kronckew · 23rd February 2020, 11:41 AM

Anne Dieu-leVeut of Tortuga, 1660-1710, a Pirate Queen?

urbanspaceman · 23rd February 2020, 02:35 PM

Thank-you very much for this; I certainly never found it, despite endless searching online.
I've now read a few Google entries on this lassie: great stuff - a true Boys' Own adventure story personified... for girls. I always felt Geena Davis was a myth too far, but perhaps I was wrong; very easy on the eye though.
So, what does everyone think? (Of the blade - not Geena Davis.)
Main problem: where does Portuguese come into it?
Obviously it is not one of her blades, although it is a mite short for a trans' rap': 32inches compared to a similar style and period trans' rap' I own (also re-hilted - I think: see pic) which is 39inches.
Of course, if it was for maritime use, then the shorter length is virtually obligatory.
Does anyone recognize what is left of the maker mark; and the letter R? First glance I thought the Wundes family, but closer examination and out-referencing (Jim McDougall) proved it is much more likely the top of a shield.
Exciting stuff this!

kronckew · 23rd February 2020, 05:30 PM

There have been a number of female pirates over the centuries. See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_piracy

Some are better looking than Geena. Have always thought she looks a bit odd.

Have not looked into tranny or drag queen pirates. their personal recreational habits, other than sharp pointy metal things, are non of my business.

fernando · 23rd February 2020, 05:44 PM

Tortuga ???

VIVA A NOSSA RAÍNHA DE PORTUGAL

God save our queen of Portugal.

urbanspaceman · 23rd February 2020, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Tortuga ???

VIVA A NOSSA RAÍNHA DE PORTUGAL

God save our queen of Portugal.

Now that is sending me back to the blade with a powerful magnifying glass Fernando; it may very well be the case.

No, it is definitely TORTUGA

That was close... I had not seen the similarity; except, you don't call it Portugal in Portuguese do you.
I've been in Lisbon quite a lot recently... one of my favourite cities.

urbanspaceman · 23rd February 2020, 05:49 PM

I think, as much fun as it is to explore this topic, there are two factors that remain unaccounted-for: one is 'Queen' of Tortuga; the other is 'Portuguese'.
This is where I grind to a halt.
The re-hilting of this blade indicates a degree of reputation I feel; anything mundane would indicate a simple 'make do and mend' approach that was common amongst pirates or sundry militia, but a silver hilt such as this speaks of value.
This style of hilt is late 1800s right?
Here's a question I have wanted an answer to for some time now:
can deeply embossed script be put into an old blade?

22nd February 2020, 10:55 PM	#2
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 622	Legs and Co Thanks David; old friends; fond memories.

23rd February 2020, 02:35 PM	#4
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 622	what God wants Thank-you very much for this; I certainly never found it, despite endless searching online. I've now read a few Google entries on this lassie: great stuff - a true Boys' Own adventure story personified... for girls. I always felt Geena Davis was a myth too far, but perhaps I was wrong; very easy on the eye though. So, what does everyone think? (Of the blade - not Geena Davis.) Main problem: where does Portuguese come into it? Obviously it is not one of her blades, although it is a mite short for a trans' rap': 32inches compared to a similar style and period trans' rap' I own (also re-hilted - I think: see pic) which is 39inches. Of course, if it was for maritime use, then the shorter length is virtually obligatory. Does anyone recognize what is left of the maker mark; and the letter R? First glance I thought the Wundes family, but closer examination and out-referencing (Jim McDougall) proved it is much more likely the top of a shield. Exciting stuff this! Attached Images

23rd February 2020, 05:44 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	What have you guys been drinking ? Tortuga ??? VIVA A NOSSA RAÍNHA DE PORTUGAL God save our queen of Portugal.

23rd February 2020, 05:49 PM	#8
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 622	Queen I think, as much fun as it is to explore this topic, there are two factors that remain unaccounted-for: one is 'Queen' of Tortuga; the other is 'Portuguese'. This is where I grind to a halt. The re-hilting of this blade indicates a degree of reputation I feel; anything mundane would indicate a simple 'make do and mend' approach that was common amongst pirates or sundry militia, but a silver hilt such as this speaks of value. This style of hilt is late 1800s right? Here's a question I have wanted an answer to for some time now: can deeply embossed script be put into an old blade?

22nd February 2020, 10:26 PM	#1
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVr2hbE6aW0

23rd February 2020, 11:41 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	Anne Dieu-leVeut of Tortuga, 1660-1710, a Pirate Queen?

23rd February 2020, 05:30 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	There have been a number of female pirates over the centuries. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_piracy Some are better looking than Geena. Have always thought she looks a bit odd. Have not looked into tranny or drag queen pirates. their personal recreational habits, other than sharp pointy metal things, are non of my business.