17th century Low countries crossbow with windlass

Marcus den toom · 20th February 2020, 02:47 PM

Thank you all so much, its an even more interesting piece than my own research had panned out.
No markings as far as i can decern.
Does anyone know what rope would be best to replace this flimsy one?

And though i believe you (Jasper) on the dating i am curious to know the (stylistic) differences between a 17and 18th century bow of this type.

fernando · 20th February 2020, 02:58 PM

Marcus, you may as well visit the Königlichen Niederländischen Armeemuseum, which is not far your neighborhood

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Quite a few examples there ... and a comprehensive catalog in the bookshop

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Marcus den toom · 25th February 2020, 02:58 PM

True Nando, though not as close anymore with my new residence.. haha. I have been there a few times as well as in the old Visser collection.

Another question, does anyone have schematics of how such a crossbow should work from the inside?

corrado26 · 25th February 2020, 04:42 PM

I hope these pages will help you
corrado26

fernando · 25th February 2020, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

--- Another question, does anyone have schematics of how such a crossbow should work from the inside?

Do you mean the arming method or the trigger action, Marcus ?
I believe there are various arming systems as also a few evolutions of the trigger system.
The arming of the model under discussion may be seen HERE and HERE.
But you surely know all that ...

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... Oh, Udo was faster

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Marcus den toom · 25th February 2020, 06:22 PM

Thanks, i am breaking my head on mine though..
i attached a image of what mine looks like.. i understand how it works when its armed, but i can't figure out how it would work after releasing the trigger.

The trigger has a small nodge which keeps the trigger from releasing (and a bigger nodge for keeping the sear in bounds).
Whence the trigger is released the sear is pushed down without a force counteracting it. How it will be armed again with the sear on the trigger nodge...

corrado26 · 26th February 2020, 11:16 AM

I think after the shot you have to turn back (c) by hand until (d) will engage again, that's all. Then you can stretch the string again

cornelistromp · 27th February 2020, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

Thanks, i am breaking my head on mine though..
i attached a image of what mine looks like.. i understand how it works when its armed, but i can't figure out how it would work after releasing the trigger.

The trigger has a small nodge which keeps the trigger from releasing (and a bigger nodge for keeping the sear in bounds).
Whence the trigger is released the sear is pushed down without a force counteracting it. How it will be armed again with the sear on the trigger nodge...

Hi Marcus,

please see crossbow post #4, you have to push down the big mushroom headed pin , to arm the trigger mechanism again. At most crossbows this pin has been lost and there is only a hole to be seen.

best,
Jasper

Marcus den toom · 27th February 2020, 06:41 PM

Hi Jasper, thanks yes that is it.. simple elegant solution. I tried it and the trigger will catch on indeed.

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Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Thanks, i am breaking my head on mine though.. i attached a image of what mine looks like.. i understand how it works when its armed, but i can't figure out how it would work after releasing the trigger. The trigger has a small nodge which keeps the trigger from releasing (and a bigger nodge for keeping the sear in bounds). Whence the trigger is released the sear is pushed down without a force counteracting it. How it will be armed again with the sear on the trigger nodge... Attached Images

20th February 2020, 02:47 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Thank you all so much, its an even more interesting piece than my own research had panned out. No markings as far as i can decern. Does anyone know what rope would be best to replace this flimsy one? And though i believe you (Jasper) on the dating i am curious to know the (stylistic) differences between a 17and 18th century bow of this type.

20th February 2020, 02:58 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Marcus, you may as well visit the Königlichen Niederländischen Armeemuseum, which is not far your neighborhood . Quite a few examples there ... and a comprehensive catalog in the bookshop .

25th February 2020, 02:58 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	True Nando, though not as close anymore with my new residence.. haha. I have been there a few times as well as in the old Visser collection. Another question, does anyone have schematics of how such a crossbow should work from the inside?

25th February 2020, 04:42 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	I hope these pages will help you corrado26 Attached Images

26th February 2020, 11:16 AM	#7
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,237	I think after the shot you have to turn back (c) by hand until (d) will engage again, that's all. Then you can stretch the string again

27th February 2020, 06:41 PM	#9
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Jasper, thanks yes that is it.. simple elegant solution. I tried it and the trigger will catch on indeed.