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Old 15th February 2020, 07:09 PM   #1
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Wow! Of course it helps! You made me very, very happy! and confirms my suspicion this is a Turkish made Yataghan.


Thank you very, very much!
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Old 15th February 2020, 07:13 PM   #2
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Certainly from the Ottoman Empire.

You’re very welcome. Is nice to see an inscription of this kind I haven’t seen before. Thanks for posting
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Old 15th February 2020, 10:53 PM   #3
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Certainly from the Ottoman Empire.
I had no doubts that it is from the Turkish Empire. However, I wanted to know where in the Turkish Empire was it made?! More exactly was it Turkey or the Balkans?!

As I found signs of wootz, I suspected that it was made in Turkey because I am not aware of Balkan smiths working wootz.

Now, the verses of an original Turkish poem seem to confirm my supposition, since if it were made in the Balkanns would have one of the more commonly used texts.

But this is only my rather far fetched speculation, as it is almost impossible to establish with certainty where it was made.

Thank you once again for your help!

PS: I have many Ottoman bldes and most likely i'll seek you help again.

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Old 16th February 2020, 12:19 AM   #4
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I don’t think the poems can tell you whether it was made in Anatolia or the Balkans. Turkish poetry would have been read and understood by officers and dignitaries all over the Balkans, Aegean and Anatolia in this period
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Old 16th February 2020, 08:39 AM   #5
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I don’t think the poems can tell you whether it was made in Anatolia or the Balkans. Turkish poetry would have been read and understood by officers and dignitaries all over the Balkans, Aegean and Anatolia in this period
True indeed!
And also Turkish smiths may have travelled and worked in the Balkans.
So, nothing certain.
But it is a lovely piece!
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Old 16th February 2020, 03:52 PM   #6
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Because it's full silver work some members will tell you that this Yat is Greek.
But Kubur in his infinite wisdom will tell you that this Yat is Ottoman Turkish.
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Because it's full silver work some members will tell you that this Yat is Greek.
But Kubur in his infinite wisdom will tell you that this Yat is Ottoman Turkish.
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Brilliant! You made my day!
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