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30th January 2020, 05:41 AM
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Though the shape of the blade is not an exact match to the original subject of this thread it is close enough to show what it was possibly originally intended to be used for.
 This was listed as an "18TH CENTURY LG SIZE PRIMITIVE GARDEN DIBBLE W HAND FORGED BLADE & WOOD HANDLE". Like quite a few items I have saved over the years I wish I could locate the one that belonged to my Great Grandmother to post as another example. Unfortunately like too many other items I have owned, after moving from one place to another it has been misplaced hopefully to be found sometime in the future.  Best, Robert Last edited by Robert; 30th January 2020 at 11:14 AM. |
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30th January 2020, 11:00 AM
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Robert, only not BINGO because you have it already nailed in your post #53.
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30th January 2020, 12:29 PM
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Hello,
yes it really look like ! I think you nailed it ! Do you know what's the size of this old dibble ? If mine is an old 17th-18th dibble it's ok for me, ( first as I wrote , I hesitate to post it in the miscelania forum) not so glorious as a katar  but many weapons in martial arts come from peasant tools at first ...For the ''poor maniability'' argument about ''no'' EARLY form of katar possibility I just wanted to show you this old pata sword coming from the MET, 17th century with no side bars at all... Wonderful but really difficult to handle no !? Kind regards |
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30th January 2020, 03:33 PM
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and here comes another one with a similar blade
corrado26 |
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30th January 2020, 05:06 PM
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I disagree my friend. Easy to handle as it looks like a bichwa handle. Its more a bichwa / katar than a pata... |
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30th January 2020, 06:33 PM
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Francantolin,
I believe that the blade of this piece was listed at being 14-1/8 inches with the handle being another 4-1/8 inches. Here is another example showing the blade being split in a similar manner to form the handle as seen on your piece. It is more of the size and style of my now missing example. Corrado26, A beautiful example still in wonderful condition. What was the description used when identifying this piece? Any idea of its actual dimensions as it appears to be of a smaller size? Best, Robert |
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30th January 2020, 07:59 PM
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you have to write them a message  For the bichwa handling ergonomy, there is a geometrical difference: Parralel is not perpendicular
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