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29th January 2020, 09:44 AM
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Dear colleagues,
Looking for your help with this mark on the schiavona's blade which looks similar, but not the same. |
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29th January 2020, 03:34 PM
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It looks like this one:
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29th January 2020, 04:09 PM
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... And why not ?
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30th January 2020, 04:18 PM
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30th January 2020, 08:15 PM
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@Evgeny_K In my modest opinion seems to be from Belluno area like many others.
I agree with you about this one is particular because presents more edges than classical ones. The big big problem about Venetian Republic swordsmiths has been that for many century they have been forgotten so you will find many old (and new) books that says Andrea Ferara was German, Scottish, Spanish... and many marks attributed to Solingen production or Toledo. For example about baskethilts swords, many blades bears the name Andrea Ferara, many of them with incorrect spelling because they are imitating the original blades that comes in Scottish market in XVI century that are genuine Andrea Ferara blades. So in Scotland they are still persuaded that this blade are made in germany, and they do not know nothing about the real story of the name. So, about marks, it would be better to take carefully indication about provenance of some blades... To finish, in my opinion is a Belunese blade (could we take a look to the rest of the sword?) @Ibrahiim al Balooshi Thanks for details about his life, he has been a great scientist and engineer for sure! @Jens Nordlunde. I have a restorer formation before than a blacksmith and I can adfirm that I find pretty hard that the indian smith were able to make an exact copy of a mark. Not only indian but every smith I know armound the world. Take a look to the fake Andrea Ferara blades for Scottish market  Cheers Giovanni |
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31st January 2020, 06:26 PM
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Here is a photo of the whole item. I am not sure whether the blade was replaced or not, because there are signs of disassembling of the sword. It is also likely the blade slightly shortened. BR, Evgeny |
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31st January 2020, 06:52 PM
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Oh Mamma Mia! (sorry but others Italian sentences I have in my mind are not as kind as this).
I have made a goo choice to ask you photos! This is an ancestral schiavona type, the blade is still large and the basket is not fully developed, is much more uncommon than later examples. In my opinion we are around 1570-80 about datation and I am 99% sure is a Belunese model, not for sure German. The blade belongs with hilt and pommel and the handle seems orginal too. Beautiful piece, a joy for my soul. Thank you for sharing Giovanni
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31st January 2020, 07:18 PM
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