Is it a katar dagger ?

Kmaddock · 24th January 2020, 08:47 PM

Very interesting.
I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like?
I like it for the obvious age it displays
Regards
Ken

ariel · 24th January 2020, 10:22 PM

Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab.
Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days.

francantolin · 25th January 2020, 05:36 AM

Hello,
Thank you all !! ,
interesting comment about whale blubber ( I didn't know these kind of knives-tools )
Yes the blade is pretty thick with diamond profile,
made for cut and stab like a spear head, but seems really not easy to use !
not well balanced at all, the tip is heavy.
It could be used making large circles moves / dance ? )
( Maybe an early ritual-votive weapon ? )

francantolin · 25th January 2020, 09:13 AM

I think now about Kerala god dance
or too kalaripayat ?
So many different weapons used in this martial art,
maybe this one has his place in ?

ariel · 25th January 2020, 09:40 AM

If its blade looks like a Katar, the handle looks like a Katar, and functionally it can be used like a Katar, why should we think that it is something other than just a Katar?

francantolin · 25th January 2020, 11:05 AM

Amen !

fernando · 25th January 2020, 11:37 AM

And another Amen

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mariusgmioc · 27th January 2020, 07:14 AM

double posting

ariel · 27th January 2020, 07:21 AM

Imagine that its horizontal bar is wrapped with thick strips of leather or fabric. Would you change your verdict?

mariusgmioc · 27th January 2020, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

If its blade looks like a Katar, the handle looks like a Katar, and functionally it can be used like a Katar, why should we think that it is something other than just a Katar?

It only looks like a katar but it cannot be PROPERLY used like a katar as it will be very unstable in the hand.

Maybe to be used for theatrical performance, or just for decoration as part of a poor man's wedding attire.

24th January 2020, 10:22 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab. Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days. Last edited by ariel; 24th January 2020 at 10:55 PM.

24th January 2020, 08:47 PM	#1
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Very interesting. I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like? I like it for the obvious age it displays Regards Ken

25th January 2020, 05:36 AM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello, Thank you all !! , interesting comment about whale blubber ( I didn't know these kind of knives-tools ) Yes the blade is pretty thick with diamond profile, made for cut and stab like a spear head, but seems really not easy to use ! not well balanced at all, the tip is heavy. It could be used making large circles moves / dance ? ) ( Maybe an early ritual-votive weapon ? )

25th January 2020, 09:13 AM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	I think now about Kerala god dance or too kalaripayat ? So many different weapons used in this martial art, maybe this one has his place in ?

25th January 2020, 09:40 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	If its blade looks like a Katar, the handle looks like a Katar, and functionally it can be used like a Katar, why should we think that it is something other than just a Katar?

25th January 2020, 11:05 AM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Amen !

25th January 2020, 11:37 AM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	And another Amen .

27th January 2020, 07:14 AM	#8
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	double posting

27th January 2020, 07:21 AM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Imagine that its horizontal bar is wrapped with thick strips of leather or fabric. Would you change your verdict?