A cojang with a laminated blade to share

thomas hauschild · 3rd November 2019, 02:38 PM

I got this cojang with a nice laminated blade. I think the copper is replaced later to pimp it up. Does not look fitting to the style of the grip.

kai · 3rd November 2019, 07:02 PM

Hello Thomas,

Good work on the blade!

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I think the copper is replaced later to pimp it up. Does not look fitting to the style of the grip.

As you can see from the carved motifs, a ferrule has always been with this piece.

Maybe a suasa ferrule got replaced later by a copper ferrule. Have it tested and you might be pleasantly surprised though!

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 3rd November 2019, 11:33 PM

My thoughts exactly Kai.

asomotif · 4th November 2019, 12:04 AM

I agree that a ferrule is original to this piece.

This one looks like a replacement considering the carftmenship that has been put into it. I would be surprised if it is suasa.

Is there any place where you can see that the piece is welded together ?

Best regards,
Willem

David R · 4th November 2019, 01:34 AM

It looks like suassa to me as well.

Battara · 4th November 2019, 05:19 AM

The patina in the pictures look like recent copper patina. Swassa doesn't patina like that so easily.

Again only a jeweler can test and tell for sure if it is copper or swassa.

asomotif · 4th November 2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Again only a jeweler can test and tell for sure if it is copper or swassa.

personally I am not walking in and out of jeweler stores with a weapon.

I think that if Thomas compares this material to the crown on your sikin you should be able to see some differences.
maybe polish them both and than compare the colour and shine.

Copper and Suasa are really different things.
"Phosphor bronze" has a similar shine when polished. in that case I would probably also need a jeweler's test.

Best regards,
Willem

Battara · 4th November 2019, 11:36 PM

Oh I don’t know - I’ve fought weapons into my jeweler many times....they were fascinated 😁

thomas hauschild · 5th November 2019, 05:39 AM

I will ask the local jewelers who will be able to test ( before I walk around with that pieces) knives in the public became strange in germany and these are big knives.

asomotif · 5th November 2019, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Oh I don’t know - I’ve fought weapons into my jeweler many times....they were fascinated 😁

Fought ?! "brought" I hope

ariel · 8th November 2019, 02:35 PM

I also took several of my pieces to the jeweler store.
They have an armed guard on duty, but I was never stopped. Every time I bring some sharpie to the store, the staff is excited and there are questions galore. After all, how much interest may be generated by yet another wedding band?
I was never charged and always was asked to bring more.

3rd November 2019, 02:38 PM	#1
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 146	A cojang with a laminated blade to share I got this cojang with a nice laminated blade. I think the copper is replaced later to pimp it up. Does not look fitting to the style of the grip. Attached Images

3rd November 2019, 11:33 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	My thoughts exactly Kai.

4th November 2019, 12:04 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	I agree that a ferrule is original to this piece. This one looks like a replacement considering the carftmenship that has been put into it. I would be surprised if it is suasa. Is there any place where you can see that the piece is welded together ? Best regards, Willem

4th November 2019, 01:34 AM	#5
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,135	It looks like suassa to me as well.

4th November 2019, 05:19 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	The patina in the pictures look like recent copper patina. Swassa doesn't patina like that so easily. Again only a jeweler can test and tell for sure if it is copper or swassa.

4th November 2019, 11:36 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Oh I don’t know - I’ve fought weapons into my jeweler many times....they were fascinated 😁

5th November 2019, 05:39 AM	#9
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 146	I will ask the local jewelers who will be able to test ( before I walk around with that pieces) knives in the public became strange in germany and these are big knives.

8th November 2019, 02:35 PM	#11
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I also took several of my pieces to the jeweler store. They have an armed guard on duty, but I was never stopped. Every time I bring some sharpie to the store, the staff is excited and there are questions galore. After all, how much interest may be generated by yet another wedding band? I was never charged and always was asked to bring more.