Arabic/Persian and Jawi Kaligrafi (Khat)

M.carter · 2nd May 2006, 10:46 PM

Jens,

I can read the word "assadullah" in that cartouche, the whole cartouche must read " 'Amal Assadullah", which means "work of assadullah".

Jens Nordlunde · 3rd May 2006, 01:34 PM

Thank you for the translation, although it can’t have been easy, with the dot writing and the missing gold.

ham · 3rd May 2006, 01:39 PM

The alif-mim-lam of 'amal are worn but visible on the far right of the inscription.

Ham

Jens Nordlunde · 3rd May 2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ham

The alif-mim-lam of 'amal are worn but visible on the far right of the inscription.

Ham

Sorry for my ignorance, but what does this mean?

M.carter · 3rd May 2006, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ham

The alif-mim-lam of 'amal are worn but visible on the far right of the inscription.

Ham

Its actually 'ayn-mim-lam, not alef. These are the alphabetical letters that make the arabic word " 'amal"

Jens Nordlunde · 3rd May 2006, 03:58 PM

Thanks for your help, and for the tip about “The Persian Shamshir and the Signature of Assad Allah” by Oliver Pinchot. I did not know it existed, but now I have it, ready for reading

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ham · 4th May 2006, 05:44 PM

Abosultely correct, it is an 'ain-- I was in a noisy cafe, impossible to think clearly in there.

"'amal" means made by, or work of, Jens

Ham

AzizMostafa · 7th May 2006, 07:15 AM

1. By Changing shapes, Meaning does not change.
2. Still investigating the pix.

3rd May 2006, 03:58 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Thanks for your help, and for the tip about “The Persian Shamshir and the Signature of Assad Allah” by Oliver Pinchot. I did not know it existed, but now I have it, ready for reading.

2nd May 2006, 10:46 PM	#1
M.carter Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	Jens, I can read the word "assadullah" in that cartouche, the whole cartouche must read " 'Amal Assadullah", which means "work of assadullah".

3rd May 2006, 01:34 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Thank you for the translation, although it can’t have been easy, with the dot writing and the missing gold.

3rd May 2006, 01:39 PM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	The alif-mim-lam of 'amal are worn but visible on the far right of the inscription. Ham

4th May 2006, 05:44 PM	#7
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Abosultely correct, it is an 'ain-- I was in a noisy cafe, impossible to think clearly in there. "'amal" means made by, or work of, Jens Ham

7th May 2006, 07:15 AM	#8
AzizMostafa Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	1. By Changing shapes, Meaning does not change. 2. Still investigating the pix.