Searching For Info On Jaeger Gun-maker, HITLLNGER FN STOCKERAV

dana_w · 24th October 2019, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

In any case, punching with M A 1 2 4 0 seems to be very recent. The alignment of the numbers is perfect. It looks like a unique punch and I don't think it's a punch from a modern military arsenal. Less than an old arsenal. Will it be a collection number?

Affectionately

That's a good point Fernando.

fernando · 25th October 2019, 11:27 AM

Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all.
In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ?

corrado26 · 25th October 2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all.
In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ?

Private weapons in public military collections are absolutely no rarity, In my long time as a member of a stately German military museum I know that it has been normal use in former times to donate all weapons of a dead officer to the military museum, as long as the widow or the children had no other application for them. As a donation these arms had to be inventarized as all other guns, swords etc. were they civilian or military

And because of the four digits: The inventory numbers in our museum had six digits
corrado26

fernando · 25th October 2019, 01:59 PM

A good point, Udo !
In such perspective, i know of a fine private collection that was donated to the local Oporto Military museu. Actually i know the person who was called to inventory it. Four digits were enough, though; this is a relatively small museum.

Fernando K · 26th October 2019, 03:19 PM

Hello

If as Corrado says above the letters and numbers there is a cannon, the letters M A would correspond to! Artillery Museum ....

Affectionately

corrado26 · 26th October 2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

If as Corrado says above the letters and numbers there is a cannon, the letters M A would correspond to! Artillery Museum ....

Affectionately

In this case it should - at least in German speaking countries - read "AM" and not "MA". "MA" would be possible in Italy, Spain or Fance
corrado26

Pukka Bundook · 26th October 2019, 06:38 PM

Dana,

This is a lovely and very interesting rifle!
When I saw the "screwless lock, I wondered if it pre-or post dated Henry
Nock's version.
I still don't know, as I see the lock is a replacement. It is very well done, and the rifle is high quality work.
Do you think the line we see in front of the lock plate was a "duffel cut" ?
By this I mean an arm brought back by a returning serviceman after the war? (Many were chopped to fit in a duffle -bag)
I find it a very delightful piece!
If there was any chance of seeing the lock internals, I would be very pleased to do so.
Congratulations, it is a wonderful piece!

Richard.

Fernando K · 26th October 2019, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

In this case it should - at least in German speaking countries - read "AM" and not "MA". "AM" would be possible in Italy, Spain or Fance
corrado26

Hola

En español Museo de aArtilleria (M A)

Afectuosamente

25th October 2019, 11:27 AM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,654	Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all. In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ?

25th October 2019, 01:59 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,654	A good point, Udo ! In such perspective, i know of a fine private collection that was donated to the local Oporto Military museu. Actually i know the person who was called to inventory it. Four digits were enough, though; this is a relatively small museum.

26th October 2019, 03:19 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 664	Hello If as Corrado says above the letters and numbers there is a cannon, the letters M A would correspond to! Artillery Museum .... Affectionately

26th October 2019, 06:38 PM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Dana, This is a lovely and very interesting rifle! When I saw the "screwless lock, I wondered if it pre-or post dated Henry Nock's version. I still don't know, as I see the lock is a replacement. It is very well done, and the rifle is high quality work. Do you think the line we see in front of the lock plate was a "duffel cut" ? By this I mean an arm brought back by a returning serviceman after the war? (Many were chopped to fit in a duffle -bag) I find it a very delightful piece! If there was any chance of seeing the lock internals, I would be very pleased to do so. Congratulations, it is a wonderful piece! Richard.