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Old 2nd October 2019, 11:09 PM   #1
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Thanks, Kubur.
It seems to me that there are a number of serious "But":
1) I can’t recall photos men from Iraq with such maces.
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2) I can’t remember similar maces in museums that would be attributed to Iraq
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assume that these maces come from Iraq, it is strange that Olufsen brought several of these maces from Bukhara
You are right they have to be from Bukhara, especially because they are associated to bukharan shashka

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On the other hand, I have not seen a single well-known publication about such maces, except for all of us known article by Torben Flindt.
This is rather strange, since logically such maces were supposed to get into Russia as trophies, and not just to Denmark ...
That's my problem, only one article but collectors will follow blindly
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Do you mean the photo album in which the peoples of the Ottoman Empire were photographed in national costumes? In the photo there are usually three people nearby. Or some other photos?
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Old 3rd October 2019, 10:20 AM   #3
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Do you mean the photo album in which the peoples of the Ottoman Empire were photographed in national costumes? In the photo there are usually three people nearby. Or some other photos?
You are absolutely terrific! Yes of course this one from Iraq and another one that I have to find. Some Sudanese alabaster maces are very similar and also some Indian rock crystal ones...
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Old 3rd October 2019, 01:32 PM   #4
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You are absolutely terrific! Yes of course this one from Iraq and another one that I have to find. Some Sudanese alabaster maces are very similar and also some Indian rock crystal ones...
Thanks Kubur

You're right, Iraqi, Indian and Sudanese maces are very similar. And I also thought about it.
Therefore, I guessed what kind of photo you thought about.
But ... All these maces are made in a completely different style. And the so-called "Bukhara maces", despite minor differences, are well recognizable and similar to each other. That is, they have one common style.
As I wrote earlier, I do not understand why there are no publications devoted to these maces, except for one, which is well known to us. But now I'm trying to figure it out. I am trying to find out if there are such maces in museums in Uzbekistan.
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Old 3rd October 2019, 04:37 PM   #5
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Maybe it is time to take an interest in the silver decoration, and compare it to silver decorations from Bukhara.
I knew Torben at the time he wrote the article, and he must have had very good reasons for saying this mace is from Bukhara.
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Jens, I have no doubt about that. Olufsen brought to Denmark this collection of various weapons at the end of the 19th century from Bukhara. And Torben Flindt wrote a very good article.
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