Brittish Royal Navy pattern 1827 maker?!

Will M · 20th August 2019, 02:19 AM

The sword appears authentic, the grip ray skin covering replaced at some point and the back strap/pommel a replacement, a poor casting most likely from a copy of this pattern of sword. The guard at the pommel does not fit properly because of the replacement back strap and it does not cover the upper edges of the skin. The ray skin looks authentic, plastic grips typically have a mould line running the length of the grip. Why the back strap is replaced is anyones guess, possibly damaged or lost while recovering the grip? The guard with crown and anchor is well done.

bvieira · 22nd August 2019, 01:44 PM

Hello,

I have some 1827 navy swords in my collection, high quality replicas are available and they even have maker marks, so even a maker mark in this swords doesn't mean it's genuine.

The Guard it's Original.

Everything else seems modern, the lion piece is obvious modern, the grip is modern and yes you can buy a replica with rayskin grip they are available everywhere, the blade was purposely scratched to give a more "used" look.

One of the worst parts of the modern replicas is the guard, their coat of arms are not 100% similar to the original ones (it's a small and detailed part), so i think somebody replace that part in this in mind.

But attention this is only my humble opinion.

Regards,

BV

20th August 2019, 02:19 AM	#1
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 407	The sword appears authentic, the grip ray skin covering replaced at some point and the back strap/pommel a replacement, a poor casting most likely from a copy of this pattern of sword. The guard at the pommel does not fit properly because of the replacement back strap and it does not cover the upper edges of the skin. The ray skin looks authentic, plastic grips typically have a mould line running the length of the grip. Why the back strap is replaced is anyones guess, possibly damaged or lost while recovering the grip? The guard with crown and anchor is well done.

22nd August 2019, 01:44 PM	#2
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello, I have some 1827 navy swords in my collection, high quality replicas are available and they even have maker marks, so even a maker mark in this swords doesn't mean it's genuine. The Guard it's Original. Everything else seems modern, the lion piece is obvious modern, the grip is modern and yes you can buy a replica with rayskin grip they are available everywhere, the blade was purposely scratched to give a more "used" look. One of the worst parts of the modern replicas is the guard, their coat of arms are not 100% similar to the original ones (it's a small and detailed part), so i think somebody replace that part in this in mind. But attention this is only my humble opinion. Regards, BV