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Old 25th May 2019, 07:53 PM   #1
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Superb example ... and interesting subject, Dr. Barkin.
In a different perspective, i would say this giant navaja was only for show off, and not destined to a customer with a GH anomaly .

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It seems there have been numbers of these huge navaja around over the years, and most seem to have been, as suggested, for knife makers displays. It does seem that many navaja were of unusually large size however, as they were intended often to serve as a kind of dirk or small sword in dire circumstances. Common folk (including sailors) were not permitted swords in many places (Spain comes to mind) and this became a concealable stand in weapon. Thus began the pocket or folding knife trend.
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Old 25th May 2019, 11:12 PM   #2
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The story of David and Goliath contains some fascinating hints of acromegaly in the latter.

His height was 6 cubits and a span, ~ 280cm ( ~ 9’ 2”) . That’s a mother of all gigantisms!

Now about the tumor:

If the tumor goes sideways, it affects nerves responsible for an eye movement. Thus , the afflicted person cannot move both eyes in a precisely coordinated fashion and develops double vision. And when and if it goes upward, the afflicted loses peripheral vision.

Goliath “ looked about” to find David, because he could see only a narrow field in front of him. For anything else he had to turn his eyes.

And here comes the punchline:

When he, looking sideways, finally located David approaching him with a shepherd’s staff, he said derisively: “Am I a dog that you are coming against me with sticks ( sic!) ?”

The point is , David carried only one stick:-)

Thus, the Bible tells us that Goliath had gigantism, loss of peripheral vision and double vision: he had a very big and invasive pituitary tumor producing GH
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Old 25th May 2019, 11:39 PM   #3
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The story of David and Goliath contains some fascinating hints of acromegaly in the latter.

His height was 6 cubits and a span, ~ 280cm ( ~ 9’ 2”) . That’s a mother of all gigantisms!

Now about the tumor:

If the tumor goes sideways, it affects nerves responsible for an eye movement. Thus , the afflicted person cannot move both eyes in a precisely coordinated fashion and develops double vision. And when and if it goes upward, the afflicted loses peripheral vision.

Goliath “ looked about” to find David, because he could see only a narrow field in front of him. For anything else he had to turn his eyes.

And here comes the punchline:

When he, looking sideways, finally located David approaching him with a shepherd’s staff, he said derisively: “Am I a dog that you are coming against me with sticks ( sic!) ?”

The point is , David carried only one stick:-)

Thus, the Bible tells us that Goliath had gigantism, loss of peripheral vision and double vision: he had a very big and invasive pituitary tumor producing GH
Now THAT is interesting! I always found bio-history or medical aspects of historical figures fascinating. Another case of the study of history and arms in tandem. Thank you!
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Old 26th May 2019, 10:16 AM   #4
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A fascinating episode of Biblical history indeed. Thanks a lot for revealing it.
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Thank you for this very interesting posting!

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Old 26th May 2019, 03:11 PM   #6
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Thank you Ariel, it is very interesting and you explained it very well.
Maharaja Anup Singh of Bikaner (r. 1669-1698) is said to have had a gigantic brother, Padam(?) Singh, who for this reason had his weapons made especially for him. His sword is said to weigh 27 kg.

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Old 27th May 2019, 02:33 PM   #7
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I am glad you all liked this little foray into pituitary endocrinology.

Do you want me to extend my quest and start arguing that tiny Katars and small Tulwar handles were specially made for the warriors with GH deficiency ( pituitary dwarfs)? Na-ah:-)
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Old 27th May 2019, 06:08 PM   #8
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Sorry, pushed the wrong button and got a duplicate

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