Piso Podang?

Ian · 20th April 2006, 02:24 AM

Depiction of garuda on the Indonesian Coat of Arms.

Ian.

Rick · 20th April 2006, 02:38 AM

One would think that if this is an Indo military sword there would be many examples around .
Also , why the Piso/Batak type quillons when they are Sumatran and many are Christian etc. ?
Mercenaries ?

A Batak regiment ?

CharlesS · 21st April 2006, 03:28 PM

Definitely a piso podang. I saw one at the Las Vegas show that was very similar.

I think Ian's point about the garuda is a very good one.

mmontoro · 21st April 2006, 03:54 PM

I think Garuda, too. Here's another pretty common example that I've seen referred to as a Garuda hilt.

Rick · 21st April 2006, 04:20 PM

What puzzles me about this piso hilt form (let's accept that it is garuda) is that there are no other figural types of piso hilts that I know of .

I wonder ; was this hilt form supplied to a certain group of Batak ; possibly Mercs for the government ?

If this was the case I would expect uniformity of blades and hilt materials .

ariel · 21st April 2006, 04:38 PM

And what about the absent "inverted cup" cavity?

Ian · 21st April 2006, 07:16 PM

Indonesian independence was proclaimed on August 17, 1945. Departure from the traditional cup hilt for a more nationalistic depiction of garuda would seem to imply a relatively recent change (perhaps early to mid-20th C.). Would that fit the age of these pieces?

Ian.

20th April 2006, 02:24 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,397	Depiction of garuda on the Indonesian Coat of Arms. Ian. Attached Images

21st April 2006, 07:16 PM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,397	Indonesian nationalism Indonesian independence was proclaimed on August 17, 1945. Departure from the traditional cup hilt for a more nationalistic depiction of garuda would seem to imply a relatively recent change (perhaps early to mid-20th C.). Would that fit the age of these pieces? Ian.

20th April 2006, 02:38 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	One would think that if this is an Indo military sword there would be many examples around . Also , why the Piso/Batak type quillons when they are Sumatran and many are Christian etc. ? Mercenaries ? A Batak regiment ?

21st April 2006, 03:28 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Definitely a piso podang. I saw one at the Las Vegas show that was very similar. I think Ian's point about the garuda is a very good one.

21st April 2006, 03:54 PM	#4
mmontoro Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	I think Garuda, too. Here's another pretty common example that I've seen referred to as a Garuda hilt.

21st April 2006, 04:20 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	What puzzles me about this piso hilt form (let's accept that it is garuda) is that there are no other figural types of piso hilts that I know of . I wonder ; was this hilt form supplied to a certain group of Batak ; possibly Mercs for the government ? If this was the case I would expect uniformity of blades and hilt materials .

21st April 2006, 04:38 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	And what about the absent "inverted cup" cavity?