Piso Podang?

ariel · 19th April 2006, 07:58 PM

Mea culpa.
Rick, your pic is correct.
Here is the correct link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Rick · 19th April 2006, 09:25 PM

I thought that might have been the one that you meant ( I was unaware the auction had ended ) .
A Brother sword hilt in white brass ?
This makes the third example of this style of piso hilt that I have seen .
The blades always seem to vary and I can see this blade is quite pitted .

ariel · 20th April 2006, 01:28 AM

Well, we might have found a new pattern.
Any ideas about it's origin and the meaning for the difference?
The cavity is supposed to have ritual significance; why isn't it present here? What about the Eagle? Isn't it one of the avatars of Vishnu? Piso Podang came to Sumatra from India (see Elgood's book).

Ian · 20th April 2006, 01:51 AM

Guys:

Might this not be a depiction of garuda?

Ian.

Rick · 20th April 2006, 02:09 AM

Absolutely no idea about the hilt symbolism .
Could be Garuda ....... < shrugs >

One of our members once told me that it resembles an indo military sword ; but There is no consistency in the blades ; mine has a finely forged native blade with very good temper and a hardened edge .
I got mine from a Canadian Seller on Ebay years ago .

Until we know more I think this hilt form will remain a mystery .

Ian · 20th April 2006, 02:24 AM

Depiction of garuda on the Indonesian Coat of Arms.

Ian.

Rick · 20th April 2006, 02:38 AM

One would think that if this is an Indo military sword there would be many examples around .
Also , why the Piso/Batak type quillons when they are Sumatran and many are Christian etc. ?
Mercenaries ?

A Batak regiment ?

20th April 2006, 02:24 AM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,397	Depiction of garuda on the Indonesian Coat of Arms. Ian. Attached Images

19th April 2006, 07:58 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Mea culpa. Rick, your pic is correct. Here is the correct link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

19th April 2006, 09:25 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I thought that might have been the one that you meant ( I was unaware the auction had ended ) . A Brother sword hilt in white brass ? This makes the third example of this style of piso hilt that I have seen . The blades always seem to vary and I can see this blade is quite pitted .

20th April 2006, 01:28 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well, we might have found a new pattern. Any ideas about it's origin and the meaning for the difference? The cavity is supposed to have ritual significance; why isn't it present here? What about the Eagle? Isn't it one of the avatars of Vishnu? Piso Podang came to Sumatra from India (see Elgood's book).

20th April 2006, 01:51 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,397	Guys: Might this not be a depiction of garuda? Ian.

20th April 2006, 02:09 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Absolutely no idea about the hilt symbolism . Could be Garuda ....... < shrugs > One of our members once told me that it resembles an indo military sword ; but There is no consistency in the blades ; mine has a finely forged native blade with very good temper and a hardened edge . I got mine from a Canadian Seller on Ebay years ago . Until we know more I think this hilt form will remain a mystery .

20th April 2006, 02:38 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	One would think that if this is an Indo military sword there would be many examples around . Also , why the Piso/Batak type quillons when they are Sumatran and many are Christian etc. ? Mercenaries ? A Batak regiment ?