Flintlock pistol for ID

Fernando K · 10th January 2019, 03:31 PM

Dear namesake

Mmmmm ....... In any case ... dubious attribution. The percussion system seems to be original, not a flint conversion, and in that case, the French pistols have an oval as an end of the hilt, following the designs of the time of the first empire. In addition, hunting scenes are not usual during this period in France, except for shotguns and hunting rifles. In all cases, the trigger closure and the shape of the butt cap seem to be mimics of a previous design.

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corrado26 · 10th January 2019, 07:24 PM

This pair is certainly not French made. For me these are typical south German or Bohemian flintlock pistols converted to percussion around 1830. They cannot originally be percussion pistols because thex differ widely from the rest of the locks and over that the whole style of the pistols shows charakteristic details of the Rokoko about 1760/70.
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fernando · 10th January 2019, 07:37 PM

This friend of my friend has brought further pictures with some parts dismounted and the result of his on investigation.
He has found online a pistol that, apart from being a more elaborated example, features a few characteristics that tend to make him realize that it was made by the same maker. Such is Wenzl Böhm in Eger (Hungary) circa 1740.The similarities are the barrel with a mid ridge, the spider site and the fanned stepping down at the breech. The flintlock is also similar and the pins holding the barrel are nearly in the same place as his example. A relief carving above the lock also appears to be made in the same style.

So Gentlemen, do we have a winner ?

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DMC777 · 11th January 2019, 05:57 PM

Hello everyone,
I'm the friend of a friend mentioned. I would also like to add that I'm pretty confident that the relief carvings on the flintlock represent a Hungarian Lynx flanked by two crouching rabbits. It's my understanding that Gere, Hungary was well known in the day for it's master gun makers.

10th January 2019, 07:37 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	This friend of my friend has brought further pictures with some parts dismounted and the result of his on investigation. He has found online a pistol that, apart from being a more elaborated example, features a few characteristics that tend to make him realize that it was made by the same maker. Such is Wenzl Böhm in Eger (Hungary) circa 1740.The similarities are the barrel with a mid ridge, the spider site and the fanned stepping down at the breech. The flintlock is also similar and the pins holding the barrel are nearly in the same place as his example. A relief carving above the lock also appears to be made in the same style. So Gentlemen, do we have a winner ? , Attached Images

11th January 2019, 05:57 PM	#4
DMC777 Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1	FLintlock identification Hello everyone, I'm the friend of a friend mentioned. I would also like to add that I'm pretty confident that the relief carvings on the flintlock represent a Hungarian Lynx flanked by two crouching rabbits. It's my understanding that Gere, Hungary was well known in the day for it's master gun makers.

10th January 2019, 03:31 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	Dear namesake Mmmmm ....... In any case ... dubious attribution. The percussion system seems to be original, not a flint conversion, and in that case, the French pistols have an oval as an end of the hilt, following the designs of the time of the first empire. In addition, hunting scenes are not usual during this period in France, except for shotguns and hunting rifles. In all cases, the trigger closure and the shape of the butt cap seem to be mimics of a previous design. A hug

10th January 2019, 07:24 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,251	This pair is certainly not French made. For me these are typical south German or Bohemian flintlock pistols converted to percussion around 1830. They cannot originally be percussion pistols because thex differ widely from the rest of the locks and over that the whole style of the pistols shows charakteristic details of the Rokoko about 1760/70. corrado26