Help to identifying a type of (British) sword

Belgian1 · 15th November 2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

BONK!!!!
Teodor….brilliant!!!! How did we miss that ?

That is indeed the Afghan state crest , the Mosque at Mazir I Sharif!

Afghanistan it is.

It's great your sharing of knowledge and your research. This is all "the essence" of an interesting Forum that is powered by interesting members. I congratulate you all for your constructive contributions.
Thanks and bravo once again !!!

Jim McDougall · 16th November 2018, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Belgian1

It's great your sharing of knowledge and your research. This is all "the essence" of an interesting Forum that is powered by interesting members. I congratulate you all for your constructive contributions.
Thanks and bravo once again !!!

Thank you very much Belgian!

Ian · 16th November 2018, 12:21 PM

The Afghan attribution seems to be correct. This afternoon I was sent pictures of a similar sword by one of the many sword enthusiasts who come to this site anonymously. The sword has the mark of the Afghan armory as well, and shows similar deep chiseling along the blade. The pictures were sent to me with a note that this is a late 19th C. Afghan officer's sword.

Perhaps this thread might be better served in the Ethno Forum.

Ian.

fernando · 16th November 2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

... Perhaps this thread might be better served in the Ethno Forum ...

And why not ?

Belgian1 · 16th November 2018, 03:24 PM

Hello Ivan,
Tank you for these very interesting photos that allow more and more to attribute this sword to an Officer of the Army of the Sultanate of Afghanistan under the reign of Abdur Rahman Khan (1880-1901).
I posted this request for information in this "European" section because I thought it was a British sword for Service in Middle East British possessions. But in fact, this post should now be in a "more oriental" section because we are normally sure that is Afghan sword for high rank officer of Abdur Rahman Khan Army.
On my side I found these photos in an Internet Forum.

For sabers of officers of the Army of the Sultanate of Afghanistan, it seems that there are European blades with European engravings, European blades with Afghan engravings, and local blades with local engravings. I imagine that as everywhere, it was a question of prestige and financial means to possess one or the other provenance ...
(Sorry for any copyrighted photos, but this is for non-commercial information, and these swords do not have patented invention requirements.) But I still thank the authors.

Hotspur · 17th November 2018, 01:57 AM

Etched, not engraved.

kronckew · 17th November 2018, 08:11 AM

I posted a very similar one at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=afghan+crest earlier in June, in the ethnic section.

Search and ye shall find

16th November 2018, 12:21 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	The Afghan attribution seems to be correct. This afternoon I was sent pictures of a similar sword by one of the many sword enthusiasts who come to this site anonymously. The sword has the mark of the Afghan armory as well, and shows similar deep chiseling along the blade. The pictures were sent to me with a note that this is a late 19th C. Afghan officer's sword. Perhaps this thread might be better served in the Ethno Forum. Ian. Attached Images

16th November 2018, 03:24 PM	#5
Belgian1 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Belgium Posts: 52	Help to identifying a mysterious "1831 type sword" Hello Ivan, Tank you for these very interesting photos that allow more and more to attribute this sword to an Officer of the Army of the Sultanate of Afghanistan under the reign of Abdur Rahman Khan (1880-1901). I posted this request for information in this "European" section because I thought it was a British sword for Service in Middle East British possessions. But in fact, this post should now be in a "more oriental" section because we are normally sure that is Afghan sword for high rank officer of Abdur Rahman Khan Army. On my side I found these photos in an Internet Forum. For sabers of officers of the Army of the Sultanate of Afghanistan, it seems that there are European blades with European engravings, European blades with Afghan engravings, and local blades with local engravings. I imagine that as everywhere, it was a question of prestige and financial means to possess one or the other provenance ... (Sorry for any copyrighted photos, but this is for non-commercial information, and these swords do not have patented invention requirements.) But I still thank the authors. Attached Images

17th November 2018, 01:57 AM	#6
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 514	Etched, not engraved.

17th November 2018, 08:11 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,228	I posted a very similar one at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=afghan+crest earlier in June, in the ethnic section. Search and ye shall find