A Time for Reflection.

corrado26 · 11th November 2018, 03:08 PM

A Time for Reflection? This you have to tell the world wide weapons industry which feeds lots of wars around the world increasingly.

corrado26

fernando · 11th November 2018, 04:04 PM

Haven't you got it wrong, Corrado ?

ariel · 11th November 2018, 04:48 PM

Wars are not made by manufacturers of weapons.
They are made by politicians, wounded national/religious ambitions and pure greed. To eliminate wars one would have to transform the entire mankind into ethereal angels.

Which may happen after the next World War.....

Norman McCormick · 11th November 2018, 07:43 PM

Perhaps this is Neither the Time Nor the Place!

kahnjar1 · 11th November 2018, 09:17 PM

11.11.11 WE WILL REMEMBER THEM

ariel · 12th November 2018, 04:38 PM

Perhaps, in retrospect, it was the most consequential war: millions of dead for no good reason except for the German wish to become an European hegemon and the unwillingness of Britain and France to allow it, 4 Empires destroyed, peculiarly fratricidal one ( German, Russian and British rulers were cousins), and the ultimate results was the mutation of Germany into a Nazi state and of Russia into a Stalin's Gulag with the horrifying WWII being an inevitable outcome occuring only less than 20 years after " the war to end all wars"....

We are still living with the consequences of the disastrous decisions of European rulers in August 1914....

fernando · 12th November 2018, 05:51 PM

Watch how this develops !

kahnjar1 · 13th November 2018, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Perhaps, in retrospect, it was the most consequential war: millions of dead for no good reason except for the German wish to become an European hegemon and the unwillingness of Britain and France to allow it, 4 Empires destroyed, peculiarly fratricidal one ( German, Russian and British rulers were cousins), and the ultimate results was the mutation of Germany into a Nazi state and of Russia into a Stalin's Gulag with the horrifying WWII being an inevitable outcome occuring only less than 20 years after " the war to end all wars"....

We are still living with the consequences of the disastrous decisions of European rulers in August 1914....

Not quite as simple a cause as described by ariel but rather than re state what Wiki says, here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I As you will read, there were several events which eventually lead to the wider conflict.
Stu

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Wars are not made by manufacturers of weapons. They are made by politicians, wounded national/religious ambitions and pure greed. To eliminate wars one would have to transform the entire mankind into ethereal angels. Which may happen after the next World War.....

12th November 2018, 04:38 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Perhaps, in retrospect, it was the most consequential war: millions of dead for no good reason except for the German wish to become an European hegemon and the unwillingness of Britain and France to allow it, 4 Empires destroyed, peculiarly fratricidal one ( German, Russian and British rulers were cousins), and the ultimate results was the mutation of Germany into a Nazi state and of Russia into a Stalin's Gulag with the horrifying WWII being an inevitable outcome occuring only less than 20 years after " the war to end all wars".... We are still living with the consequences of the disastrous decisions of European rulers in August 1914....

12th November 2018, 05:51 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Watch how this develops !