A Moro Kris With Restoration Questions

Sajen · 3rd November 2018, 03:53 PM

Good work CHK, congrats!

I would have tried to keep the both remaining braided fiber rings and just blacken them again.

But like said, good result.

Regards,
Detlef

kino · 3rd November 2018, 04:24 PM

You work fast, cleaning and restoring Chief. I will have to agree with Sajen on keeping the original braided rings. Nice work.

I’m speculating that the rectangular cavity in the pommel was once inlaid with the same type of wood. Instead of having to start over and re-carving, it was just filled in.

See the repair work on this Kampilan hilt. Same repair work possibly.

Ian · 3rd November 2018, 09:55 PM

Hi Chief,

Nice restoration and cleaning. I agree that keeping the braided rings would have been more in keeping how it looked in the original culture, but the whipped black cord looks very neat. Having an original anting anting is a nice touch too.

Kino's suggestion about a prior repair to the pommel sounds right to me. I've seen similar repairs on a barung hilt as well. The quality of the repair on kino's kampilan looks particularly good to me and might have been done by the original carver of that hilt.

Ian

chiefheadknocker · 4th November 2018, 08:34 AM

I have really enjoyed restoring this sword ,which I dedicated a whole day to get it done , I was in two minds about the brading , there was only one section that was intact and so I left it off as it wouldn't match the new ones , I lightly etched the blade which came up very nice , I prefer not to clean these sword up too much as they can loose there aged look but this one had to be put right ,I couldn't live with the loose hilt , now it looks quite impressive with the bright silver bands against the black braiding , I dont think I will try to tackle putting a wooden inlay into the pommel !
Thanks for all your responses

Tim Simmons · 6th August 2024, 03:46 PM

I am in the process of purchasing this Kris here in the UK. What I would like to know, what would have originally been inlayed into the pommel? To my eyes the hole was cut at the time of making the pommel, just does not look natural. This is a well travelled kris.

Sajen · 6th August 2024, 04:29 PM

Like stated in up, the same type of wood as the pommel.

Regards,
Detlef

Tim Simmons · 6th August 2024, 04:53 PM

Clearly been cut at the time of making. Why cut a hole to fill with the same wood? I have ivory and mop, also human teeth but that is a Fijian thing.

3rd November 2018, 04:24 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	You work fast, cleaning and restoring Chief. I will have to agree with Sajen on keeping the original braided rings. Nice work. I’m speculating that the rectangular cavity in the pommel was once inlaid with the same type of wood. Instead of having to start over and re-carving, it was just filled in. See the repair work on this Kampilan hilt. Same repair work possibly. Attached Images

3rd November 2018, 09:55 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,513	Hi Chief, Nice restoration and cleaning. I agree that keeping the braided rings would have been more in keeping how it looked in the original culture, but the whipped black cord looks very neat. Having an original anting anting is a nice touch too. Kino's suggestion about a prior repair to the pommel sounds right to me. I've seen similar repairs on a barung hilt as well. The quality of the repair on kino's kampilan looks particularly good to me and might have been done by the original carver of that hilt. Ian Last edited by Ian; 3rd November 2018 at 10:14 PM.

6th August 2024, 03:46 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,922	I am in the process of purchasing this Kris here in the UK. What I would like to know, what would have originally been inlayed into the pommel? To my eyes the hole was cut at the time of making the pommel, just does not look natural. This is a well travelled kris. Attached Images

6th August 2024, 04:53 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,922	Clearly been cut at the time of making. Why cut a hole to fill with the same wood? I have ivory and mop, also human teeth but that is a Fijian thing. Attached Images

3rd November 2018, 03:53 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Good work CHK, congrats! I would have tried to keep the both remaining braided fiber rings and just blacken them again. But like said, good result. Regards, Detlef

4th November 2018, 08:34 AM	#4
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	I have really enjoyed restoring this sword ,which I dedicated a whole day to get it done , I was in two minds about the brading , there was only one section that was intact and so I left it off as it wouldn't match the new ones , I lightly etched the blade which came up very nice , I prefer not to clean these sword up too much as they can loose there aged look but this one had to be put right ,I couldn't live with the loose hilt , now it looks quite impressive with the bright silver bands against the black braiding , I dont think I will try to tackle putting a wooden inlay into the pommel ! Thanks for all your responses

6th August 2024, 04:29 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Like stated in up, the same type of wood as the pommel. Regards, Detlef