Small Ottoman (?) knife for ID, Bulgarian shepherd's knife?

Sajen · 20th October 2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi
I confirm what you wrote it's Ottoman, but i don't know if its Turkish or Balkan...

Hi,
Thank's for comment and confirming that it's Ottoman. Hope someone can tell me more!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 21st October 2018, 10:24 AM

Thanks Kubur I know that it's indeed a Ottoman knife!

No one is able to tell me more about it? Exact origin, age? Would be very thankful!

Sajen · 21st October 2018, 10:33 AM

It coming with a similar but bigger one which I have resold, here some auction pictures, maybe it's helpful.

drac2k · 21st October 2018, 02:07 PM

Very nice knife; the blade profile and the file work remind me of Cretan blades.

Sajen · 21st October 2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Very nice knife; the blade profile and the file work remind me of Cretan blades.

Thank you!

TVV · 21st October 2018, 06:31 PM

This is not connected to Bulgarian shepherd's knives for sure. To me it is reminiscent of Central Asian knives, such as the Uzbek pichok (you can see some earlier Bukhara examples in the Moser collection, etc. for comparison). This does not mean it is not Ottoman - in fact, it most probably is, but it is an older Central Asian form and not connected to the Balkans.

Teodor

Sajen · 21st October 2018, 09:35 PM

Thank you very much Teodor!

Regards,
Detlef

gp · 29th September 2022, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

It coming with a similar but bigger one which I have resold, here some auction pictures, maybe it's helpful.

going through the link , the picture is indeed helpful; the bigger one has a decoration on the blade which often can be seen on the Bosnian an Serbian knives. In one of the threads on bichaqs I places one or two pics of 3 knives from little to bigger with copper handle and also the octagonal shape...

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...76&postcount=2
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...2&postcount=76

RobT · 30th September 2022, 01:42 AM

Hi sfenoid13,

I had always thought that this knife was from the Trabzon region. Is it a saldirma?

Sincerely,
RobT

David R · 30th September 2022, 08:28 AM

I just thought I might as well join in with mine, posted before but on its own thread.

gp · 30th September 2022, 08:42 AM

very nice knives but we must be careful not to mix 3 differnet types I see in this thread :

1. former Yugoslavia ( Bosnian knives)
2. Surmene knives
3. Laz knives or as they are called in Georgia "Babas Khama"
with some pics of the latter

21st October 2018, 10:33 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	It coming with a similar but bigger one which I have resold, here some auction pictures, maybe it's helpful. Attached Images

30th September 2022, 01:42 AM	#9
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 563	Saldirma? Hi sfenoid13, I had always thought that this knife was from the Trabzon region. Is it a saldirma? Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

30th September 2022, 08:28 AM	#10
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,123	I just thought I might as well join in with mine, posted before but on its own thread. Attached Images

30th September 2022, 08:42 AM	#11
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 841	very nice knives but we must be careful not to mix 3 differnet types I see in this thread : 1. former Yugoslavia ( Bosnian knives) 2. Surmene knives 3. Laz knives or as they are called in Georgia "Babas Khama" with some pics of the latter Attached Images

21st October 2018, 10:24 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Thanks Kubur I know that it's indeed a Ottoman knife! No one is able to tell me more about it? Exact origin, age? Would be very thankful!

21st October 2018, 02:07 PM	#4
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Very nice knife; the blade profile and the file work remind me of Cretan blades.

21st October 2018, 06:31 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,666	This is not connected to Bulgarian shepherd's knives for sure. To me it is reminiscent of Central Asian knives, such as the Uzbek pichok (you can see some earlier Bukhara examples in the Moser collection, etc. for comparison). This does not mean it is not Ottoman - in fact, it most probably is, but it is an older Central Asian form and not connected to the Balkans. Teodor

21st October 2018, 09:35 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Thank you very much Teodor! Regards, Detlef