Need Help with my first Keris

nechesh · 5th April 2006, 02:32 AM

William, if i were you i would go back to the thread i linked for you and work this out step by step. It seems you are in a bit of a rush to work this blade and i think it might be to your benefit to slow down and attack this situation more methodically. I agree with Rick that pineapple juice is a great acidic liquid to use. You really MUST remove ALL of the rust before you can even think about restoring the pamor pattern of this blade. I would let this puppy soak for a while (a few days) frequently brushing the surface with an old toothbrush. Once this is done you can start to figure out how to stain it. But truthfully, the arsenic and lime mixture (warangan) is the only thing that will restore the proper color to the iron. Other chemicals will raise the pamor, but it won't be quite right. There are people who can do this work for you if you don't want to mess with such sustances.

William.m · 6th April 2006, 12:03 AM

Hiya, okay well it looks like my option is to find somebody in the UK who can do the whole arsnic thing. Do you know how anybody who I could contact?
As to the pinapple juice, I have some in a tin is this okay to use?
Thank you all very much for the help so far.

Regards,

Will

nechesh · 6th April 2006, 12:46 AM

Sure, the stuff in the ti is what i use.

Your blade looks like it has a very clear pamor and it should stain up nicely when you can find someone to do it.

Rick · 6th April 2006, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William.m

Hiya, okay well it looks like my option is to find somebody in the UK who can do the whole arsnic thing. Do you know how anybody who I could contact?
As to the pinapple juice, I have some in a tin is this okay to use?
Thank you all very much for the help so far.

Regards,

Will

Unsweetened pineapple juice ?
Okay .

Probably okay even if sweetened as sugar shouldn't affect the acid content ( but I may be talking out my a%se on this point ) I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong .

You could send it to the US for traditional staining ; I'll ask a friend if he's up for the job . There may also be someone in Holland who can do this (any of our Dutch members , time to speak up) !

Rick

BluErf · 8th April 2006, 02:03 AM

I'm going to wash a keris blade this evening, and I'm going to use grapefruit juice, straight from the tetrapak.

As long as there is citric acid in the juice, it should work. Vinegar is fine, if you don't mind the smell.

But based on my experience, vinegar gives a darker grey look while citric acid gives a whiter look. Not sure why.

Rick · 8th April 2006, 04:17 AM

There's really no substitute for the traditional warangan stain .

5th April 2006, 02:32 AM	#1
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	William, if i were you i would go back to the thread i linked for you and work this out step by step. It seems you are in a bit of a rush to work this blade and i think it might be to your benefit to slow down and attack this situation more methodically. I agree with Rick that pineapple juice is a great acidic liquid to use. You really MUST remove ALL of the rust before you can even think about restoring the pamor pattern of this blade. I would let this puppy soak for a while (a few days) frequently brushing the surface with an old toothbrush. Once this is done you can start to figure out how to stain it. But truthfully, the arsenic and lime mixture (warangan) is the only thing that will restore the proper color to the iron. Other chemicals will raise the pamor, but it won't be quite right. There are people who can do this work for you if you don't want to mess with such sustances.

6th April 2006, 12:03 AM	#2
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	Hiya, okay well it looks like my option is to find somebody in the UK who can do the whole arsnic thing. Do you know how anybody who I could contact? As to the pinapple juice, I have some in a tin is this okay to use? Thank you all very much for the help so far. Regards, Will

6th April 2006, 12:46 AM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Sure, the stuff in the ti is what i use. Your blade looks like it has a very clear pamor and it should stain up nicely when you can find someone to do it.

8th April 2006, 02:03 AM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I'm going to wash a keris blade this evening, and I'm going to use grapefruit juice, straight from the tetrapak. As long as there is citric acid in the juice, it should work. Vinegar is fine, if you don't mind the smell. But based on my experience, vinegar gives a darker grey look while citric acid gives a whiter look. Not sure why.

8th April 2006, 04:17 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	There's really no substitute for the traditional warangan stain .