Powder horn? gun experts

Tim Simmons · 21st July 2018, 06:40 PM

Thanks for the replies what made me go for it was largely the bead work very much in the style of the Plains native Americans? I might be able to add more when I have it. It certainly does not have the look of fake or aged up scrim horns.

Tim Simmons · 22nd July 2018, 05:12 PM

This may have no relevance at all, but this horn is coming to me from Plymouth UK. Apart from the Plymouth Fathers, Plymouth has a long history of trade, passengers and importation from the USA including the slave trade. Could I be lucky?

Tim Simmons · 22nd July 2018, 05:39 PM

You can see what got me here, although a double row of beads, but the method is the same.

kahnjar1 · 22nd July 2018, 08:54 PM

Hi Tim,
You may well be correct regarding First Nation origin. I do not know enough about their "equipment", but the phallic shape is quite common among African tribes.
Stu

fernando · 22nd July 2018, 09:46 PM

What, Stu ... no phallic arguments in Europe ?

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kahnjar1 · 22nd July 2018, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

What, Stu ... no phallic arguments in Europe ?

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Court records probably show otherwise!!

Tim Simmons · 23rd July 2018, 09:47 AM

Take care or you might see them everywhere.

Examples of the method of bead stitching. All pictures taken from AMNH data base. I cannot save the magnified image available on the AMNH web site but you can see what I am suggesting.

fernando · 23rd July 2018, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

...It certainly does not have the look of fake or aged up scrim horns.

I never thought this was a fake, but instead a different implement. It will be interesting to know the width of the pourer. My doubts were based on its apparently too wide opening for powder pouring purposes, where usually they are rather narrower, judging by my few examples ... and not only.
Butt i am fully ready to be wrong, though

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22nd July 2018, 05:39 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	You can see what got me here, although a double row of beads, but the method is the same. Attached Images

23rd July 2018, 09:47 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Take care or you might see them everywhere. Examples of the method of bead stitching. All pictures taken from AMNH data base. I cannot save the magnified image available on the AMNH web site but you can see what I am suggesting. Attached Images

21st July 2018, 06:40 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Thanks for the replies what made me go for it was largely the bead work very much in the style of the Plains native Americans? I might be able to add more when I have it. It certainly does not have the look of fake or aged up scrim horns.

22nd July 2018, 05:12 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	This may have no relevance at all, but this horn is coming to me from Plymouth UK. Apart from the Plymouth Fathers, Plymouth has a long history of trade, passengers and importation from the USA including the slave trade. Could I be lucky?

22nd July 2018, 08:54 PM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,789	Hi Tim, You may well be correct regarding First Nation origin. I do not know enough about their "equipment", but the phallic shape is quite common among African tribes. Stu

22nd July 2018, 09:46 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	What, Stu ... no phallic arguments in Europe ? .