Club Trivia. Have a guess!

[RSWORD]

Hopefully I was able to capture the entire club in this picture.

[RSWORD]

In Partingtons book I found a very similar example listed as Australian. The handle end in the line drawing has the same shape and the curvature is the same. Based on this line drawing my vote is for Australian. Look at number 3.

[Timo Nieminen]

While the profile is similar to the Australian club in the drawing, the 3D shape doesn't look very Australian to me.

From the caption in Partington, club #3 looks like a boomerang-club to me, a flattened club that can be thrown as a boomerang (non-returning, of course). These are often called "lil-lil", and that should find some examples when used as a search term.

One from the British Museum: http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...13469&partId=1 (photos attached).

There are Australian sword-clubs with long round handles, but the caption "used as swords and as missiles" suggests to me it isn't one of these. One example of a long-handled sword-club: https://australianmuseum.net.au/image/e076955-club

[Tim Simmons]

I tend to agree not Australia. I wonder if it is some kind of throwing device.? The groove used as a track to launch a projectile of some form.

Perhaps it is a native American hunting stick? Maybe from arrid or desert regions?

[Tim Simmons]

It looks similar to a carp fishing bait throwing stick. Perhaps a rabbit or bird hunting stick that throws a pebble.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I tend to agree not Australia. I wonder if it is some kind of throwing device.? The groove used as a track to launch a projectile of some form.

Perhaps it is a native American hunting stick? Maybe from arrid or desert regions?

I was waiting to see if anyone caught that thought. think cesta. Originally used by (see flag hint below) shepherds to throw spherical stone or lead bullets & as a sword club. I've heard of one other like this. Not American either, tho their descendants are popular for throwing pelota in Florida, another form is the bait thrower tim mentioned, I have a similar device for throwing tennis balls for the dog:

[Tim Simmons]

I do not think it is the stick used in the Basque game. It could be a shepherds lead pellet thrower as much as a rabbit hunting stick?

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I do not think it is the stick used in the Basque game. It could be a shepherds lead pellet thrower as much as a rabbit hunting stick?

Wasn't suggesting it was, it was a precursor shepherds tool, tarted up when they ran out of wolves (4 or 2 footed) to use throwing a hardball against the church walls on Sunday afternoons turning into the wickerwork version where they could catch it and throw it back, which you can't do with the club. They started by playing what essentially was handball, some bright spark probably said, 'hey. remember those clubs we used to use?'.

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I do not think it is the stick used in the Basque game. It could be a shepherds lead pellet thrower as much as a rabbit hunting stick?

I think it is too heavy a club to be an effective projectile thrower or hunting stick. At 39” and quite thick and heavy you would have to throw it at much slower objects. I would think you would want a lighter club with a bit of flex to really throw a stone or other object effectively. This club has no flex.

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

While the profile is similar to the Australian club in the drawing, the 3D shape doesn't look very Australian to me.

From the caption in Partington, club #3 looks like a boomerang-club to me, a flattened club that can be thrown as a boomerang (non-returning, of course). These are often called "lil-lil", and that should find some examples when used as a search term.

One from the British Museum: http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...13469&partId=1 (photos attached).

There are Australian sword-clubs with long round handles, but the caption "used as swords and as missiles" suggests to me it isn't one of these. One example of a long-handled sword-club:
https://australianmuseum.net.au/image/e076955-club

Yes, unfortunately the example in the book does not give us a feel for the thickness of the club. The book example is 35 1/2” which seems long for most boomerang or throwing clubs and after an exhaustive search in Partingtons, Oldmans and Webster’s this is the only example I can find that has the same shape grip. Plus mine is comparable length.

[Timo Nieminen]

Originally Posted by RSWORD

Yes, unfortunately the example in the book does not give us a feel for the thickness of the club. The book example is 35 1/2” which seems long for most boomerang or throwing clubs

35" is a big boomerang, but it isn't hard to find examples of old boomerangs of that size. A few examples from the British Museum:
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...86825&partId=1
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...01810&partId=1
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...89074&partId=1
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...13776&partId=1
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...07195&partId=1