Amanremu

Machetero · 22nd May 2018, 11:02 AM

Hello. I'm a longtime member, but I haven't commented in years.
First of all, lovely Amanremu. Love the rare silver tips on the prongs. Love the very fine blade. I great addition to any collection!

I am curious about the horsehair tuft. I own a Sikin with a similar tuft of coarse equestrian hair sticking out from between the end prongs (the crocodile mouth). I think I have seen it one other time on some other sword, but don't remember where. So what do you all think is the significance of the hair, who put it there?

Would be great to hear some insight or just theories.

/Odd

Roland_M · 22nd May 2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Machetero

So what do you all think is the significance of the hair, who put it there?

Hello Machetero,

the hair seems to belong original to the sword. The hair tuft is braided and fitted exactly in the hilt.

It could be a sign for a Chieftain or another VIP. This blade is definitely far to good for an ordinary warrior. Or it could be made to deviate and consternate the enemy as on Chinese and other blades. The human eye is programmed to follow movements. The effect is probably not to intense but 5% less of the enemys concentration are 5%.

Finally sometimes such a hair tuft is a simple blood stopper, especially on lanceheads, but clearly not in this case.

Roland

Machetero · 22nd May 2018, 04:31 PM

Thanks Roland.
That seems like solid reasons the horse hair tuft. I am leaning towards some tribal meaning, or as you say a sign of excellence somehow.
I'll try to get a photo of the Sikin, if you wanna see it.

/Odd

Sajen · 22nd May 2018, 05:57 PM

Hi Roland,

again, it's a real beauty! I've handled the sword before so I can confirm that the hair tuft seems original to this sword, here is another North Sumatra sword with hair tuft, also this one I've handled and think that the hair tuft is also original to it: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22732
but not so nicely attached. Kai has recommended to remove the hair tuft but fortunately Thomas hasn't followed this advice!

I am curious to see the sikin from Machetero, it would be the third sword from North Sumatra with a hair tuft attached to the handle. Only because we haven't seen this feature before in books or somewhere else it don't mean that it can't be original.
When you ever want to part with this beauty you know who you can ask first!

Best,
Detlef

Roland_M · 22nd May 2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Machetero

Thanks Roland.
That seems like solid reasons the horse hair tuft. I am leaning towards some tribal meaning, or as you say a sign of excellence somehow.
I'll try to get a photo of the Sikin, if you wanna see it.

/Odd

Hi Machatero,

yes I'm very intersted to see yor Sikin!
I also have a so called Sikin Pasangan with a huge curved blade. According to Volz it is a Peudeung Pasangan. It also got a pretty nice temperline but not as sophisticated as on the Amanremu or Palasword.

Roland

Machetero · 23rd May 2018, 01:47 AM

Here are a few pics of my Sikin, with the hair and all. The last picture shows a curious number stamped into the blade spine. What it means, I suppose I will never know. Perhaps just a collectors cataloging number. Perhaps something more exciting. I hope to see more of these hair tufts on Northern Sumatra swords, it is invigorating to stumble upon something which at first just seems like an anomaly, and then proves to be something more.
/Odd

Machetero · 23rd May 2018, 01:50 AM

Roland. I love that blade on the sikin pasangan, Especially the beautiful curvature of that false edge.

Roland_M · 23rd May 2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Machetero

Here are a few pics of my Sikin, with the hair and all.

Machetero,

that is a nice Sikin Panjang with its original scabbard, which got lost in most cases. It is the first Sikin Panjang I see with a hair tuft and since the Sikin Panjang is a pure weapon, no multitool like many others, I think the blade of your Sikin is probably of good to high quality.

Yesterday I saw a little bit of the forging pattern of the Amanremu and it is absolutely awesome.

Roland

Roland_M · 24th May 2018, 08:08 AM

This is a little embarrasing for me, last night I found out, this Amanremu is no Amanremu. It is a rare Batak Pakpak Ladingin.
As soon as I'm satisfied with my restoration work, I will show it again with its real name. The forging pattern is worth to show.

23rd May 2018, 01:47 AM	#6
Machetero Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 12	Here are a few pics of my Sikin, with the hair and all. The last picture shows a curious number stamped into the blade spine. What it means, I suppose I will never know. Perhaps just a collectors cataloging number. Perhaps something more exciting. I hope to see more of these hair tufts on Northern Sumatra swords, it is invigorating to stumble upon something which at first just seems like an anomaly, and then proves to be something more. /Odd Attached Images

24th May 2018, 08:08 AM	#9
Roland_M Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 525	This is a little embarrasing for me, last night I found out, this Amanremu is no Amanremu. It is a rare Batak Pakpak Ladingin. As soon as I'm satisfied with my restoration work, I will show it again with its real name. The forging pattern is worth to show. Last edited by Roland_M; 24th May 2018 at 11:44 AM.

22nd May 2018, 11:02 AM	#1
Machetero Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 12	Hello. I'm a longtime member, but I haven't commented in years. First of all, lovely Amanremu. Love the rare silver tips on the prongs. Love the very fine blade. I great addition to any collection! I am curious about the horsehair tuft. I own a Sikin with a similar tuft of coarse equestrian hair sticking out from between the end prongs (the crocodile mouth). I think I have seen it one other time on some other sword, but don't remember where. So what do you all think is the significance of the hair, who put it there? Would be great to hear some insight or just theories. /Odd

22nd May 2018, 04:31 PM	#3
Machetero Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 12	Thanks Roland. That seems like solid reasons the horse hair tuft. I am leaning towards some tribal meaning, or as you say a sign of excellence somehow. I'll try to get a photo of the Sikin, if you wanna see it. /Odd

22nd May 2018, 05:57 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	Hi Roland, again, it's a real beauty! I've handled the sword before so I can confirm that the hair tuft seems original to this sword, here is another North Sumatra sword with hair tuft, also this one I've handled and think that the hair tuft is also original to it: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22732 but not so nicely attached. Kai has recommended to remove the hair tuft but fortunately Thomas hasn't followed this advice! I am curious to see the sikin from Machetero, it would be the third sword from North Sumatra with a hair tuft attached to the handle. Only because we haven't seen this feature before in books or somewhere else it don't mean that it can't be original. When you ever want to part with this beauty you know who you can ask first! Best, Detlef

23rd May 2018, 01:50 AM	#7
Machetero Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 12	Roland. I love that blade on the sikin pasangan, Especially the beautiful curvature of that false edge.